Anonymous
07/14/2020 11:05
Subject: The Arizona teacher who died had Lupus, Diabetes and Asthma / those affected qualify for paid leave
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also, we can't say definitively that the teacher got infected at school. We know people in AZ have not really been staying home, so it's possible she could have got it somewhere else.
It doesn’t matter where she got it. The result will be the same for hybrid/in person. The class/school will shut down for 14 days minimum. I don’t know why people are harping in getting it at school. It does not change the result.
People are posting this story as supposed proof that it is unsafe for teachers to be in the school building (in support of 100% DL). People are pointing out that she may have gotten it elsewhere.
True, but it spread to the other two adults who were in school spending hours together but taking all recommended precautions. That's the dangerous part.
Most transmissions are adult-adult or adult-kid. I would definitely eliminate in-person contact between teachers/staff in the fall, to the extent possible. Staff mtgs can be virtual. Teachers' lounge can be one at a time to get lunch.
I think if you talk to teachers they will tell you it's almost impossible. Other adults rotate in and out of the classroom for sped or ELL students at the very least.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 11:03
Subject: The Arizona teacher who died had Lupus, Diabetes and Asthma / those affected qualify for paid leave
You can add this to another one of 100s of threads on why schools should open, op. Quite frankly you are tiresome, and nobody cares about you posting idiotic information. Most of adults in the U.S. are overweight and have a health problem.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 11:01
Subject: The Arizona teacher who died had Lupus, Diabetes and Asthma / those affected qualify for paid leave
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also, we can't say definitively that the teacher got infected at school. We know people in AZ have not really been staying home, so it's possible she could have got it somewhere else.
It doesn’t matter where she got it. The result will be the same for hybrid/in person. The class/school will shut down for 14 days minimum. I don’t know why people are harping in getting it at school. It does not change the result.
People are posting this story as supposed proof that it is unsafe for teachers to be in the school building (in support of 100% DL). People are pointing out that she may have gotten it elsewhere.
True, but it spread to the other two adults who were in school spending hours together but taking all recommended precautions. That's the dangerous part.
Most transmissions are adult-adult or adult-kid. I would definitely eliminate in-person contact between teachers/staff in the fall, to the extent possible. Staff mtgs can be virtual. Teachers' lounge can be one at a time to get lunch.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 11:00
Subject: The Arizona teacher who died had Lupus, Diabetes and Asthma / those affected qualify for paid leave
Anonymous wrote:I wish DCPS would consider all sorts of possible plans. For high school, for instance, consider having more in-person school for grades 9 and 12 since they are pivotal (adjusting to high school and finishing high school) and have 10th and 11th be primarily DL (they've already adjusted to high school).
Not sure people would agree with your assumption that 11th and 12th graders- who are applying to college- need less F2F than 9th and 10th.
Anyhow, one hopes that DCPS is being nuanced with their approach, yes.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 10:58
Subject: The Arizona teacher who died had Lupus, Diabetes and Asthma / those affected qualify for paid leave
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also, we can't say definitively that the teacher got infected at school. We know people in AZ have not really been staying home, so it's possible she could have got it somewhere else.
It doesn’t matter where she got it. The result will be the same for hybrid/in person. The class/school will shut down for 14 days minimum. I don’t know why people are harping in getting it at school. It does not change the result.
People are posting this story as supposed proof that it is unsafe for teachers to be in the school building (in support of 100% DL). People are pointing out that she may have gotten it elsewhere.
True, but it spread to the other two adults who were in school spending hours together but taking all recommended precautions. That's the dangerous part.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 10:56
Subject: The Arizona teacher who died had Lupus, Diabetes and Asthma / those affected qualify for paid leave
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also, we can't say definitively that the teacher got infected at school. We know people in AZ have not really been staying home, so it's possible she could have got it somewhere else.
It doesn’t matter where she got it. The result will be the same for hybrid/in person. The class/school will shut down for 14 days minimum. I don’t know why people are harping in getting it at school. It does not change the result.
People are posting this story as supposed proof that it is unsafe for teachers to be in the school building (in support of 100% DL). People are pointing out that she may have gotten it elsewhere.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 10:54
Subject: The Arizona teacher who died had Lupus, Diabetes and Asthma / those affected qualify for paid leave
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When you consider that obesity, asthma, diabetes, heart disease etc. are pre-existing conditions, you are talking about a MAJORITY of adults. So it's not really useful to point them out as a reason why in person teaching is a good idea.
A majority of adults OVER A CERTAIN AGE.
In 2017–2018, the age-adjusted prevalence of obesity in adults was 42.4%, and there were no significant differences between men and women among all adults or by age group.
42% of adults are obese. That's just one of the preexisting conditions.
Many DCPS teachers are AA, and AAs have been especially impacted by the pandemic due to the effects of institutional racism, which have led to increased comorbid conditions. Given this, I'd imagine there are a high proportion of teachers that fall into at-risk categories, unfortunately.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 10:54
Subject: The Arizona teacher who died had Lupus, Diabetes and Asthma / those affected qualify for paid leave
Anonymous wrote:Also, we can't say definitively that the teacher got infected at school. We know people in AZ have not really been staying home, so it's possible she could have got it somewhere else.
It doesn’t matter where she got it. The result will be the same for hybrid/in person. The class/school will shut down for 14 days minimum. I don’t know why people are harping in getting it at school. It does not change the result.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 10:48
Subject: The Arizona teacher who died had Lupus, Diabetes and Asthma / those affected qualify for paid leave
I wish DCPS would consider all sorts of possible plans. For high school, for instance, consider having more in-person school for grades 9 and 12 since they are pivotal (adjusting to high school and finishing high school) and have 10th and 11th be primarily DL (they've already adjusted to high school).
Anonymous
07/14/2020 10:45
Subject: The Arizona teacher who died had Lupus, Diabetes and Asthma / those affected qualify for paid leave
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When you consider that obesity, asthma, diabetes, heart disease etc. are pre-existing conditions, you are talking about a MAJORITY of adults. So it's not really useful to point them out as a reason why in person teaching is a good idea.
A majority of adults OVER A CERTAIN AGE.
In 2017–2018, the age-adjusted prevalence of obesity in adults was 42.4%, and there were no significant differences between men and women among all adults or by age group.
42% of adults are obese. That's just one of the preexisting conditions.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 10:42
Subject: The Arizona teacher who died had Lupus, Diabetes and Asthma / those affected qualify for paid leave
Anonymous wrote:When you consider that obesity, asthma, diabetes, heart disease etc. are pre-existing conditions, you are talking about a MAJORITY of adults. So it's not really useful to point them out as a reason why in person teaching is a good idea.
A majority of adults OVER A CERTAIN AGE.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 10:40
Subject: The Arizona teacher who died had Lupus, Diabetes and Asthma / those affected qualify for paid leave
When you consider that obesity, asthma, diabetes, heart disease etc. are pre-existing conditions, you are talking about a MAJORITY of adults. So it's not really useful to point them out as a reason why in person teaching is a good idea.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 10:36
Subject: The Arizona teacher who died had Lupus, Diabetes and Asthma / those affected qualify for paid leave
Anonymous wrote:Lots of use of this tragedy of the teacher who died out in Arizona as justification for DL ONLY
BUT what no one is being honest about is that, according to what is also reported in the original news story, that teacher had 3 pre-existing conditions:
Lupus
Diabetes
Asthma
Each of which qualified her for paid work from home. So, questions you should be asking is not WHY should schools Re-OPEN, instead ask:
1) Did the HR in her school district publish and list the qualifiying conditions for which a teacher could get paid leave or DL paid ?
DCPS has met this requirement
2) Did this teacher see her MD prior to returning to in person teaching ?
DCPS requires this also
Were ALL state metrics met prior to re-open phase: contact tracing levels at 100% within 24 hours and percent positive test below 5 % for the muncipality where she lived taught
If NOT, don't blame the school children blame the policies NOT ENFORCED
DC can do better
What an odd post. The fact that she had multiple pre-existing conditions was definitely in every article about her.
First of all, there were no children in the classroom. She was teaching remotely. So, no one is blaming "school children".
Secondly, she was likely the patient zero, the person who brought the virus. She probably did get it elsewhere, but it also seems that despite masks the people with her contracted the virus.
Thirdly, I am not sure what you mean by she was eligible for paid leave? Are you saying she should have gotten leave to quarantine? Yes, but there is no long term paid leave for people who are vulnerable to the virus. She in AZ which was, at that point saying that they were going to open full time F2F in the fall, so she may have felt that she needed to save her leave.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 10:29
Subject: The Arizona teacher who died had Lupus, Diabetes and Asthma / those affected qualify for paid leave
Also, we can't say definitively that the teacher got infected at school. We know people in AZ have not really been staying home, so it's possible she could have got it somewhere else.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 10:24
Subject: The Arizona teacher who died had Lupus, Diabetes and Asthma / those affected qualify for paid leave
Lots of use of this tragedy of the teacher who died out in Arizona as justification for DL ONLY
BUT what no one is being honest about is that, according to what is also reported in the original news story, that teacher had 3 pre-existing conditions:
Lupus
Diabetes
Asthma
Each of which qualified her for paid work from home. So, questions you should be asking is not WHY should schools Re-OPEN, instead ask:
1) Did the HR in her school district publish and list the qualifiying conditions for which a teacher could get paid leave or DL paid ?
DCPS has met this requirement
2) Did this teacher see her MD prior to returning to in person teaching ?
DCPS requires this also
Were ALL state metrics met prior to re-open phase: contact tracing levels at 100% within 24 hours and percent positive test below 5 % for the muncipality where she lived taught
If NOT, don't blame the school children blame the policies NOT ENFORCED
DC can do better
BUT what no one is being honest about is that, according to what is also reported in the original news story, that teacher had 3 pre-existing conditions:
Lupus
Diabetes
Asthma
Each of which qualified her for paid work from home. So, questions you should be asking is not WHY should schools Re-OPEN, instead ask:
1) Did the HR in her school district publish and list the qualifiying conditions for which a teacher could get paid leave or DL paid ?
DCPS has met this requirement
2) Did this teacher see her MD prior to returning to in person teaching ?
DCPS requires this also
Were ALL state metrics met prior to re-open phase: contact tracing levels at 100% within 24 hours and percent positive test below 5 % for the muncipality where she lived taught
If NOT, don't blame the school children blame the policies NOT ENFORCED
DC can do better