Anonymous
Post 07/12/2020 01:44     Subject: Is MOMS Club International Racist???

I’d run a mile from a group like that.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2020 01:40     Subject: Is MOMS Club International Racist???

"I agree with their stance. They are for new mothers, all new mothers, not just activist mothers. Making statements about issues will alienate some new mothers, which is contrary to their mission.

It's hard for you to see, OP, but it's true."

Please say this to the face of ANY mother who is not white.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2020 01:35     Subject: Is MOMS Club International Racist???

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here’s their lame excuse that they sent chapters who questioned them:

“We agree there’s nothing political about being against racism - EVERYONE should be against racism - but unfortunately, political activists have distorted the discussion and made it political. And by presenting statements “against” racism, it can imply that you were racist before.”

They also said “Any topic that pulls your chapter off its mission or divides your members could be political, if activists take that topic and politicize it.”

So basically, nothing discussed in any kind of current event is ok for MOMS Club. Not anti-racism, not climate change, not education, not even roads or libraries or parks. They COULD all be political!


I agree with their stance. They are for new mothers, all new mothers, not just activist mothers. Making statements about issues will alienate some new mothers, which is contrary to their mission.

It's hard for you to see, OP, but it's true.


+1. Also oddly, I am originally from that random SoCal city mentioned in the change.org petition comment.




I honestly can't imagine how anyone would think this would be okay. I am NOT be okay with a group that is simply "for new mothers, all new mothers, not just activist mothers." Because mothers come in EVERY COLOR. And---- "Making statements about issues will alienate some new (white??!) mothers, which is contrary to their mission." What are you even saying, seriously??? ALL MOTHERS NEED SUPPORT, regardless of race, work status, economic status, ANY STATUS. The comments on here are absolutely ludicrous.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2020 01:07     Subject: Is MOMS Club International Racist???

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here’s their lame excuse that they sent chapters who questioned them:

“We agree there’s nothing political about being against racism - EVERYONE should be against racism - but unfortunately, political activists have distorted the discussion and made it political. And by presenting statements “against” racism, it can imply that you were racist before.”

They also said “Any topic that pulls your chapter off its mission or divides your members could be political, if activists take that topic and politicize it.”

So basically, nothing discussed in any kind of current event is ok for MOMS Club. Not anti-racism, not climate change, not education, not even roads or libraries or parks. They COULD all be political!


I agree with their stance. They are for new mothers, all new mothers, not just activist mothers. Making statements about issues will alienate some new mothers, which is contrary to their mission.

It's hard for you to see, OP, but it's true.


+1. Also oddly, I am originally from that random SoCal city mentioned in the change.org petition comment.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2020 00:36     Subject: Is MOMS Club International Racist???

Anonymous wrote:Here’s their lame excuse that they sent chapters who questioned them:

“We agree there’s nothing political about being against racism - EVERYONE should be against racism - but unfortunately, political activists have distorted the discussion and made it political. And by presenting statements “against” racism, it can imply that you were racist before.”

They also said “Any topic that pulls your chapter off its mission or divides your members could be political, if activists take that topic and politicize it.”

So basically, nothing discussed in any kind of current event is ok for MOMS Club. Not anti-racism, not climate change, not education, not even roads or libraries or parks. They COULD all be political!


I agree with their stance. They are for new mothers, all new mothers, not just activist mothers. Making statements about issues will alienate some new mothers, which is contrary to their mission.

It's hard for you to see, OP, but it's true.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2020 00:23     Subject: Is MOMS Club International Racist???

Sounds racist. There is nothing in condemning racism that would jeopardize 501c3 status.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2020 00:21     Subject: Is MOMS Club International Racist???

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but this is just stupid. It’s a club for new moms to gather together and build a community in their neighborhood. There’s no point in having them make statements regarding race relations. It’s performative and pointless. They were right to say no, and the people going after them are in it for the woke points. It’s ridiculous.


+1

As for the divide between SAHM and WOHM, it sounds like you don't care about the issue beyond being divisive yourself, OP. Move on. You don't need to destroy the group when you leave. Just go away.


+1
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2020 21:41     Subject: Is MOMS Club International Racist???

Here’s their lame excuse that they sent chapters who questioned them:

“We agree there’s nothing political about being against racism - EVERYONE should be against racism - but unfortunately, political activists have distorted the discussion and made it political. And by presenting statements “against” racism, it can imply that you were racist before.”

They also said “Any topic that pulls your chapter off its mission or divides your members could be political, if activists take that topic and politicize it.”

So basically, nothing discussed in any kind of current event is ok for MOMS Club. Not anti-racism, not climate change, not education, not even roads or libraries or parks. They COULD all be political!
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2020 21:27     Subject: Is MOMS Club International Racist???

Our chapter in this area disbanded over this. MOMS Club International and other nonprofits aren’t prohibited from making anti-racism or anti-racist statements. Many, MANY other 501(c)(3) orgs have come out with anti-racist statements or in support of BLM and it’s ok.

We are likely going to transition to a purely social organization, allowing members from whatever areas and zip codes we want (as part of MOMS Club we could only accept members from a few zip codes). I don’t see anything wrong with a group focusing on SAHM or part time working moms who have flexibility during the day though. I realize Intl MOMS Club and their outdated bylaws prohibited that, but most chapters let anyone join as long as they were aware that the vast majority of activities took place during the day during the week.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2020 21:22     Subject: Re:Is MOMS Club International Racist???

I joined Moms Club when DD was a baby and it was great for a while. Then they started telling us we had to turn people away for not living in the right zip code. Also they have rules about what you can spend dues money on. A few of us decided to disband and start our own group but some remained loyal. So now there are two groups where we live. Having said that, I do work FT and so did some of the other Moms. That was never an issue. Most of our activities were during the day mid week but not everyone works 40 hr weeks 9-5.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2020 21:18     Subject: Is MOMS Club International Racist???

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but this is just stupid. It’s a club for new moms to gather together and build a community in their neighborhood. There’s no point in having them make statements regarding race relations. It’s performative and pointless. They were right to say no, and the people going after them are in it for the woke points. It’s ridiculous.



It was a chapter who decided to make the statement. AGAINST RACISM. How is that political??? MOMS Clubs have members of all races. I think it was entirely appropriate for this chapter to take a stand against racism, and stand up for non-white members.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2020 21:16     Subject: Is MOMS Club International Racist???

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but this is just stupid. It’s a club for new moms to gather together and build a community in their neighborhood. There’s no point in having them make statements regarding race relations. It’s performative and pointless. They were right to say no, and the people going after them are in it for the woke points. It’s ridiculous.


+1

As for the divide between SAHM and WOHM, it sounds like you don't care about the issue beyond being divisive yourself, OP. Move on. You don't need to destroy the group when you leave. Just go away.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2020 21:13     Subject: Is MOMS Club International Racist???

The group on Facebook states,

"There is a current uproar among MOMS club chapters across the US. MOMS Club members are calling out International for their antiquated bylaws (nothing has changed or been edited in 37 years). It started with the poster you may have seen in the message from Jill of the Rancho Santa Margarita, CA chapter. They created a poster that said, “We stand with all moms and pledge that racial discrimination will stop with our kids”. International would not post this because, according to them, they can’t be political as a 501c(3) nonprofit. This is not accurate. The founders have been called out on upholding outdated patriarchal, classist and racist ideas. Patriarchal - limiting evening events, classist - degrading moms who work, and now racist - refusing to stand for racial equality. This group is a place to share information, connect with other members, and brainstorm ideas on how to take action, if your chapter chooses to do so.
Some chapters have discussed and acted on the following:
1. Flooding International's email (support@momsclub.org)
2. Demanding the current board of International to step down (there is a petition going around)
3. Disbanding their chapter
4. Starting their own facebook/meetup group or 501c(3) organization that is more inclusive and reflects the modern day mom.
Thank you for being here!"
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2020 21:13     Subject: Is MOMS Club International Racist???

Sorry, but this is just stupid. It’s a club for new moms to gather together and build a community in their neighborhood. There’s no point in having them make statements regarding race relations. It’s performative and pointless. They were right to say no, and the people going after them are in it for the woke points. It’s ridiculous.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2020 21:08     Subject: Is MOMS Club International Racist???

I'm sure a number of you have heard of MOMS Club, which is an organization for stay-at-home moms, moms offering moms support during daytime hours. For those of you who don't know, MOMS Club International (a 501(c)3 nonprofit organization) has provided a club forum that has divided stay-at-home moms from working moms for years. Many have joined in spite of the divide it puts up between working and non working moms, because people are desperate for friends. Most people I know who joined a MOMS Club chapter ended up dropping out because they see how it divides women, because they go back to work, or because they drop out after they make their friends.

Anyway, this archaic club has weathered through the years, in spite of finding ways to exclude working mothers from its group. Well, the $hit has finally hit the fan with this organization. The International Organization is accused of perpetuating racism:

"It has recently come to light that the International MOMS Club organization has chosen to remain on the wrong side of history. They are clinging to the status quo and refusing to acknowledge current events. They have refused to issue any sort of statement condemning racial inequality or pledge any kind of action against it.
Their excuse is that engaging in political activity jeopardizes our 501(c)(3) status. This is so outrageous. The laws around it only prohibit our club from endorsing candidates. Besides which, when did it become political to acknowledge racism and commit to learning and growing?"

"It all began with a chapter posting a beautiful photo collage promising that racial discrimination will end with their children. International refused to share it, claiming that it was political. The chapter was so shocked and disappointed with the terrible responses provided, and have disbanded. International has chosen to remain silent still. We encourage you to sign and share our petition and also share your thoughts and concerns at support@momsclub.org . We feel that the founder must step aside to allow for leadership that is more in line with their members beliefs. “ See: https://www.change.org/p/moms-club-call-for-international-moms-club-founder-mary-james-to-resign-amid-racism-scandal

A number of chapters around the country are now disbanding from the organization, including several in the DC area. There is a Facebook group for it. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1358291397894998/

Thoughts? Are they racist, or within their legal rights as a 501(c)3 to not take a stance on racial discrimination? I know I will never join this organization ever again...