Anonymous
Post 06/16/2020 22:13     Subject: I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.
Anonymous wrote:
If schools open without very strict protocols, adults working in the buildings will be FAR MORE EXPOSED than you or the average working adult, OP. Teachers in the NY public school system died because schools closed too late.

Shame on you. If you are so moronic as to misunderstand the level of risk involved, don't whine about "being so tired".
Everyone is tired of this pandemic!

Accept that some adults have been more exposed than you, or will be more exposed than you, and that a pandemic involves caring for others and making sure they're as safe as they can be. A novel concept for you, it seems.


You guys really come on here and say anything...

Average working adult jobs with just as much exposure as school employees:

Me- medical field (have not stopped working)
Grocery store
Retail
Combination (target/Walmart)
Gas station employee
Fast food industry (drive thru window)
Law enforcement/ public safety
bus drivers

See? Took 2 minutes just for those.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2020 22:12     Subject: I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.
This is an awful situation for everyone. But it is worse for some than for others. And while the shutdown itself has awful effects, it's happening because people are dying. Until it's someone you know, I guess you don't care?
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2020 22:09     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. Keep in mind those people are a small (yet vocal) minority. All the teachers that I know IRL want to go back into the classroom. (Of course, my friends and I are in the 25 to 50 year old set.)


I really hope that's the case.

I’m a 55 year old teacher and really want to go back. The ones who don’t want are more than likely the so called specialists or focus teachers who don’t really have much interaction with students to begin with.


It’s the opposite at my school. The most worried are the older teachers or teachers with health issues that are teaching huge on level and inclusion classes, sometimes with multiple adults in the room. The woman who teaches across from me has two paras and sometimes an ASL interpreter in her classes. She had thyroid cancer. She has 31 years in MCPS so she can retire July 1, but is way too young for SS. If she leaves, we lose a great teacher and will get a 22 year old I guess. Too bad she is disposable simply for being sick.


How about the effect on the students of those classes of not being in school?
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2020 22:07     Subject: I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If schools open without very strict protocols, adults working in the buildings will be FAR MORE EXPOSED than you or the average working adult, OP. Teachers in the NY public school system died because schools closed too late.

Shame on you. If you are so moronic as to misunderstand the level of risk involved, don't whine about "being so tired".
Everyone is tired of this pandemic!

Accept that some adults have been more exposed than you, or will be more exposed than you, and that a pandemic involves caring for others and making sure they're as safe as they can be. A novel concept for you, it seems.



PP, I think you need to think about who the "average working adult" is. In May 2019, the largest occupations in the US were: retail salesperson, fast food and counter workers, cashiers, home health and personal care aides, registered nurses, general office clerks, laborers and hand material movers, customer service representatives, wait staff, and general and operations managers.

MCPS must offer distance learning as a reasonable accommodation for teachers/staff in high-risk categories. But for teachers/staff who just don't feel safe being back in school, at some point, they're going to have to make a choice: do your job in school, or find a different job somewhere else.


PP you replied to.

True, I was thinking of DCUM occupations.
And I also agree with your conclusion.

However OP's whining really irritates me. "Tired" is better than dead, OP!
We can have a calm discussion about this, but it's petulant and self-centered to criticize teachers and declare oneself tired of a entire professional group. I've noticed that DCUM usually targets teachers. Every month there's an anti-teacher thread. I appreciate how exhausting it is to be in the classroom day in, day out, and I wonder who these grumpy people are, who always find fault with others. OP must harbor similar sentiments against other groups she doesn't feel kinship with...


Anonymous
Post 06/16/2020 22:05     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. Keep in mind those people are a small (yet vocal) minority. All the teachers that I know IRL want to go back into the classroom. (Of course, my friends and I are in the 25 to 50 year old set.)


I really hope that's the case.

I’m a 55 year old teacher and really want to go back. The ones who don’t want are more than likely the so called specialists or focus teachers who don’t really have much interaction with students to begin with.


It’s the opposite at my school. The most worried are the older teachers or teachers with health issues that are teaching huge on level and inclusion classes, sometimes with multiple adults in the room. The woman who teaches across from me has two paras and sometimes an ASL interpreter in her classes. She had thyroid cancer. She has 31 years in MCPS so she can retire July 1, but is way too young for SS. If she leaves, we lose a great teacher and will get a 22 year old I guess. Too bad she is disposable simply for being sick.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2020 21:59     Subject: I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.
Anonymous wrote:
If schools open without very strict protocols, adults working in the buildings will be FAR MORE EXPOSED than you or the average working adult, OP. Teachers in the NY public school system died because schools closed too late.

Shame on you. If you are so moronic as to misunderstand the level of risk involved, don't whine about "being so tired".
Everyone is tired of this pandemic!

Accept that some adults have been more exposed than you, or will be more exposed than you, and that a pandemic involves caring for others and making sure they're as safe as they can be. A novel concept for you, it seems.



PP, I think you need to think about who the "average working adult" is. In May 2019, the largest occupations in the US were: retail salesperson, fast food and counter workers, cashiers, home health and personal care aides, registered nurses, general office clerks, laborers and hand material movers, customer service representatives, wait staff, and general and operations managers.

MCPS must offer distance learning as a reasonable accommodation for teachers/staff in high-risk categories. But for teachers/staff who just don't feel safe being back in school, at some point, they're going to have to make a choice: do your job in school, or find a different job somewhere else.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2020 21:51     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. Keep in mind those people are a small (yet vocal) minority. All the teachers that I know IRL want to go back into the classroom. (Of course, my friends and I are in the 25 to 50 year old set.)


I really hope that's the case.

I’m a 55 year old teacher and really want to go back. The ones who don’t want are more than likely the so called specialists or focus teachers who don’t really have much interaction with students to begin with.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2020 21:51     Subject: I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We get it they are "scared" they didn't "sign up for this".

It's BS. Kids have never been germ free. If you are that scared and fragile you shouldn't have ever chosen to work directly with kids from the get go.

Once my company returns to the office we don't get to say we don't feel safe. You either come back or you get a new job. Simple.

If your job now feels unsafe to you then you get a new job-it's not your employers job to coddle you.

We all have to choose a level of risk we are comfortable with. And if you are not comfortable with the risk then that's a personal decision, not a decision that should effect everyone else.

I'm just so tired of it. The idea that we are looking at DL in the fall seems to be directly related to all these teachers and staff that continually go on about how they don't feel safe.


Yeah, it’s real tough when the world no longer revolves around your needs, isn’t it?


Since when have the schools decisions EVER revolved around parents? And why should this decision only revolve around staff needs?
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2020 21:49     Subject: I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.
Anonymous wrote:
If schools open without very strict protocols, adults working in the buildings will be FAR MORE EXPOSED than you or the average working adult, OP. Teachers in the NY public school system died because schools closed too late.

Shame on you. If you are so moronic as to misunderstand the level of risk involved, don't whine about "being so tired".
Everyone is tired of this pandemic!

Accept that some adults have been more exposed than you, or will be more exposed than you, and that a pandemic involves caring for others and making sure they're as safe as they can be. A novel concept for you, it seems.






^ I wrote the above, and I am a parent, not a teacher.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2020 21:48     Subject: I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.
Anonymous wrote:We get it they are "scared" they didn't "sign up for this".

It's BS. Kids have never been germ free. If you are that scared and fragile you shouldn't have ever chosen to work directly with kids from the get go.

Once my company returns to the office we don't get to say we don't feel safe. You either come back or you get a new job. Simple.

If your job now feels unsafe to you then you get a new job-it's not your employers job to coddle you.

We all have to choose a level of risk we are comfortable with. And if you are not comfortable with the risk then that's a personal decision, not a decision that should effect everyone else.

I'm just so tired of it. The idea that we are looking at DL in the fall seems to be directly related to all these teachers and staff that continually go on about how they don't feel safe.


COVID isn’t a cold or ringworm. It isn’t conjunctivitis or strep throat. It’s not the flu. Stop acting like school staff should have anticipated something that killed 100,000 Americans in three months. Trust me, if that’s the argument you want to make, no one with other options will choose teaching in the future.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2020 21:48     Subject: I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.

If schools open without very strict protocols, adults working in the buildings will be FAR MORE EXPOSED than you or the average working adult, OP. Teachers in the NY public school system died because schools closed too late.

Shame on you. If you are so moronic as to misunderstand the level of risk involved, don't whine about "being so tired".
Everyone is tired of this pandemic!

Accept that some adults have been more exposed than you, or will be more exposed than you, and that a pandemic involves caring for others and making sure they're as safe as they can be. A novel concept for you, it seems.




Anonymous
Post 06/16/2020 21:48     Subject: I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.
Anonymous wrote:We get it they are "scared" they didn't "sign up for this".

It's BS. Kids have never been germ free. If you are that scared and fragile you shouldn't have ever chosen to work directly with kids from the get go.

Once my company returns to the office we don't get to say we don't feel safe. You either come back or you get a new job. Simple.

If your job now feels unsafe to you then you get a new job-it's not your employers job to coddle you.

We all have to choose a level of risk we are comfortable with. And if you are not comfortable with the risk then that's a personal decision, not a decision that should effect everyone else.

I'm just so tired of it. The idea that we are looking at DL in the fall seems to be directly related to all these teachers and staff that continually go on about how they don't feel safe.


Yeah, it’s real tough when the world no longer revolves around your needs, isn’t it?
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2020 21:47     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.
Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. Keep in mind those people are a small (yet vocal) minority. All the teachers that I know IRL want to go back into the classroom. (Of course, my friends and I are in the 25 to 50 year old set.)


I really hope that's the case.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2020 21:44     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.
Teacher here. Keep in mind those people are a small (yet vocal) minority. All the teachers that I know IRL want to go back into the classroom. (Of course, my friends and I are in the 25 to 50 year old set.)
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2020 21:42     Subject: I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.
We get it they are "scared" they didn't "sign up for this".

It's BS. Kids have never been germ free. If you are that scared and fragile you shouldn't have ever chosen to work directly with kids from the get go.

Once my company returns to the office we don't get to say we don't feel safe. You either come back or you get a new job. Simple.

If your job now feels unsafe to you then you get a new job-it's not your employers job to coddle you.

We all have to choose a level of risk we are comfortable with. And if you are not comfortable with the risk then that's a personal decision, not a decision that should effect everyone else.

I'm just so tired of it. The idea that we are looking at DL in the fall seems to be directly related to all these teachers and staff that continually go on about how they don't feel safe.