Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 19:33     Subject: Change Name of Wash DC
Why not change America to something else? It elected all the slave owners to be the presidents.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 19:32     Subject: Re:Change Name of Wash DC
We should change the name to "Steve"
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 18:37     Subject: Re:Change Name of Wash DC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most recent statehood proposal has the name becoming Washington, Douglass Commonwealth.


Just Douglass is fine. Douglass State.


Needs to be Douglass Commonwealth so that we still have DC, DCUM, DMV. Truly hallowed traditions.


That’s a good idea. And what should we do with the Washington monument? Why not dedicate it to Harriet Tubman?
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 18:33     Subject: Change Name of Wash DC
Lol, love it.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 18:32     Subject: Change Name of Wash DC
Anonymous wrote:In light of recent protests and name changes, I’ve heard someone mention today changing the name of Washington, DC, because Washington was a slaveholder. Will this get any traction? In light of the proposal to remove the Washington monument, it doesn’t seem far fetched. And we can’t call it anything to do with Columbia derived as it is from Columbus.

I would call the city (eventual state) simply Freedom.


HELL NO.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 18:31     Subject: Re:Change Name of Wash DC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most recent statehood proposal has the name becoming Washington, Douglass Commonwealth.


Just Douglass is fine. Douglass State.


Needs to be Douglass Commonwealth so that we still have DC, DCUM, DMV. Truly hallowed traditions.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 18:24     Subject: Re:Change Name of Wash DC
Anonymous wrote:In general I think the test should not be "was this person a slaveholder" and more "why do we remember/commemorate this person?"

In the case of confederate statues, it's almost always the case that the statues were put up decades after the war during a violent terrorist campaign to claw back the rights and freedoms that black people had gained in the war all across the South. That was the intention behind the statues and behind naming so many things after confederates.

Washington, on the other hand, is commemorated more for leading the army in the Revolution and for being the first President.

Someone like Jefferson imo is on the line because we remember him for the Declaration, etc, but his life is also the embodiment of the hypocrisy that was baked in, or at least the gap between our ideals and our reality.

I'd be open to a discussion about it and from hearing from people who think it should be changed but I do think it's important to consider each case on its merits.


Jefferson was also responsible for expanding our country in an unmatched way with the Louisiana Purchase.

His writing of the Declaration is important enough in itself to merit commemoration.

He also wrote a foundational document on religious freedom.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 18:20     Subject: Re:Change Name of Wash DC
In general I think the test should not be "was this person a slaveholder" and more "why do we remember/commemorate this person?"

In the case of confederate statues, it's almost always the case that the statues were put up decades after the war during a violent terrorist campaign to claw back the rights and freedoms that black people had gained in the war all across the South. That was the intention behind the statues and behind naming so many things after confederates.

Washington, on the other hand, is commemorated more for leading the army in the Revolution and for being the first President.

Someone like Jefferson imo is on the line because we remember him for the Declaration, etc, but his life is also the embodiment of the hypocrisy that was baked in, or at least the gap between our ideals and our reality.

I'd be open to a discussion about it and from hearing from people who think it should be changed but I do think it's important to consider each case on its merits.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 18:20     Subject: Change Name of Wash DC
Anonymous wrote:It needs to be a state, and upon statehood, we can change the name.


This
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 18:19     Subject: Re:Change Name of Wash DC
Anonymous wrote:The most recent statehood proposal has the name becoming Washington, Douglass Commonwealth.


Just Douglass is fine. Douglass State.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 18:19     Subject: Change Name of Wash DC
oh puhleeze!
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 18:15     Subject: Change Name of Wash DC
Oh FFS. If you want to get rid of every single slaveholder who has a namesake in this country, you’re going to need to go a lot farther than renaming Washington, DC.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 18:13     Subject: Re:Change Name of Wash DC
The most recent statehood proposal has the name becoming Washington, Douglass Commonwealth.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 18:10     Subject: Change Name of Wash DC
It needs to be a state, and upon statehood, we can change the name.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 18:08     Subject: Change Name of Wash DC
In light of recent protests and name changes, I’ve heard someone mention today changing the name of Washington, DC, because Washington was a slaveholder. Will this get any traction? In light of the proposal to remove the Washington monument, it doesn’t seem far fetched. And we can’t call it anything to do with Columbia derived as it is from Columbus.

I would call the city (eventual state) simply Freedom.