Anonymous
Post 06/10/2020 15:07     Subject: Why not recombine Summer and Winter Olympic Games?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://apnews.com/dd51339540d8846881d4f34f85cc4141

Postponed Tokyo Olympics could be downsized and simplified. My question is, why shoehorn it into 2021? Why not wait until 2022, and for the first time since 1992, have the Summer and Winter Games the same year? I don't know about you, but the Olympics have been less meaningful or impressive to me when every other year is an Olympic year. I'd like to see it return to a special global spectacle every four years. Tokyo and Beijing can cohost 2022, Paris and Milan can cohost 2026, Los Angeles (currently scheduled for the 2028 Summer Games) can instead take 2030 with maybe Salt Lake City, Vancouver, or Calgary cohosting the Winter Games that year. And then going forward, both Summer and Winter Games will be held in the same handful of cities with existing infrastructure. This would have the bonus of eliminating the wasteful spending cities currently do to bid for and host the Games.


2022 is already incredibly crowded with Track & Field world championships, European athletic championships, and the Commonwealth Games.

Soccer World Cup 2022 is in November but in 2026 will be back in northern hemisphere summer. No way IOC would try and compete for viewers with that in future years.


Qatar bribed their way to that bid. I wish they moved it elsewhere.
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2020 04:25     Subject: Re:Why not recombine Summer and Winter Olympic Games?
It means the athletes who trained for Summer 2020 need to wait an extra 2 years? That’s too long.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2020 14:37     Subject: Why not recombine Summer and Winter Olympic Games?
I think part of the reason was also due to logistics demands put on the IOC. They didn't have the staff to handle two events in one year.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2020 13:26     Subject: Why not recombine Summer and Winter Olympic Games?
Anonymous wrote:https://apnews.com/dd51339540d8846881d4f34f85cc4141

Postponed Tokyo Olympics could be downsized and simplified. My question is, why shoehorn it into 2021? Why not wait until 2022, and for the first time since 1992, have the Summer and Winter Games the same year? I don't know about you, but the Olympics have been less meaningful or impressive to me when every other year is an Olympic year. I'd like to see it return to a special global spectacle every four years. Tokyo and Beijing can cohost 2022, Paris and Milan can cohost 2026, Los Angeles (currently scheduled for the 2028 Summer Games) can instead take 2030 with maybe Salt Lake City, Vancouver, or Calgary cohosting the Winter Games that year. And then going forward, both Summer and Winter Games will be held in the same handful of cities with existing infrastructure. This would have the bonus of eliminating the wasteful spending cities currently do to bid for and host the Games.


2022 is already incredibly crowded with Track & Field world championships, European athletic championships, and the Commonwealth Games.

Soccer World Cup 2022 is in November but in 2026 will be back in northern hemisphere summer. No way IOC would try and compete for viewers with that in future years.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2020 14:40     Subject: Why not recombine Summer and Winter Olympic Games?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that they were separated because many countries couldn't afford the massive expense every four years and spreading out the cost helped the countries better manage the financial aspect of the games. Has that changed?


That doesn't make sense. They were rarely in the same country even when held the same year.


It costs more for the country to have both, versus just one. But I've never heard this theory before. I think they were split because more money can be generated that way. Well, except for the host country!


Nevermind, completely misread these statements. I need to get more sleep.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2020 14:39     Subject: Why not recombine Summer and Winter Olympic Games?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that they were separated because many countries couldn't afford the massive expense every four years and spreading out the cost helped the countries better manage the financial aspect of the games. Has that changed?


That doesn't make sense. They were rarely in the same country even when held the same year.


It costs more for the country to have both, versus just one. But I've never heard this theory before. I think they were split because more money can be generated that way. Well, except for the host country!
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2020 14:18     Subject: Why not recombine Summer and Winter Olympic Games?
Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that they were separated because many countries couldn't afford the massive expense every four years and spreading out the cost helped the countries better manage the financial aspect of the games. Has that changed?


That doesn't make sense. They were rarely in the same country even when held the same year.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2020 14:16     Subject: Re:Why not recombine Summer and Winter Olympic Games?
Anonymous wrote:The Winter Games need to be held somewhere with snow -- preferably in winter. Seems like a lot of countries would get the short shrift.

They've never even gone near the Tropic of Cancer.



Both summer and winter games need to be stationed in one or two cities with existing infrastructure. Moving around is expensive and ridiculous. They don't have to be the same cities for both (although some, like Vancouver and Tokyo, could handle both).
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2020 14:16     Subject: Why not recombine Summer and Winter Olympic Games?
My understanding is that they were separated because many countries couldn't afford the massive expense every four years and spreading out the cost helped the countries better manage the financial aspect of the games. Has that changed?
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2020 14:12     Subject: Re:Why not recombine Summer and Winter Olympic Games?
Anonymous wrote:Have more people started watching the Winter Olympics since they've been separated?

I always watch the winter games but I am the only one I know of who does, including my family.


I think most viewers (outside of enthusiasts for specific sports) tune in to watch figure skating and incidentally watch whatever is airing in prime time. The way the U.S. shows the games is heinous, just small clips of event leaders surrounded by a lot of melodramatic stories and commercials. Other countries will actually air events start to finish with minimal commentary and interruptions, so I try to find those to VPN into live streams.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2020 14:08     Subject: Re:Why not recombine Summer and Winter Olympic Games?
The Winter Games need to be held somewhere with snow -- preferably in winter. Seems like a lot of countries would get the short shrift.

They've never even gone near the Tropic of Cancer.

Anonymous
Post 06/04/2020 14:00     Subject: Why not recombine Summer and Winter Olympic Games?
I only watch the winter games.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2020 13:58     Subject: Re:Why not recombine Summer and Winter Olympic Games?
Have more people started watching the Winter Olympics since they've been separated?

I always watch the winter games but I am the only one I know of who does, including my family.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2020 13:56     Subject: Why not recombine Summer and Winter Olympic Games?
Winter Games always got short-shrift when they were together... which was why they separated them.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2020 13:51     Subject: Why not recombine Summer and Winter Olympic Games?
https://apnews.com/dd51339540d8846881d4f34f85cc4141

Postponed Tokyo Olympics could be downsized and simplified. My question is, why shoehorn it into 2021? Why not wait until 2022, and for the first time since 1992, have the Summer and Winter Games the same year? I don't know about you, but the Olympics have been less meaningful or impressive to me when every other year is an Olympic year. I'd like to see it return to a special global spectacle every four years. Tokyo and Beijing can cohost 2022, Paris and Milan can cohost 2026, Los Angeles (currently scheduled for the 2028 Summer Games) can instead take 2030 with maybe Salt Lake City, Vancouver, or Calgary cohosting the Winter Games that year. And then going forward, both Summer and Winter Games will be held in the same handful of cities with existing infrastructure. This would have the bonus of eliminating the wasteful spending cities currently do to bid for and host the Games.