Anonymous
05/31/2020 08:58
Subject: Re:For people with black colleagues
Anonymous wrote:"We show up for work anyway. And we contain our rage, tears, fear and sadness. .... We don’t take our pain to work."
That's because work is not the place for it. This is called being professional. It might surprise you how many of your coworkers (of all races) are struggling to get out of bed in the morning and put on a happy face for Zoom meetings. Does the author really think that only Blacks have agonized over hospitalized relatives and the real possibility that they will die alone? And how about the millions of people who don't even have co-workers anymore because their jobs disappeared?
"On behalf of your Black colleagues: we’re not okay. And you shouldn’t be either."
News flash: We aren't.
+1
Anonymous
05/31/2020 08:53
Subject: Re:For people with black colleagues
"We show up for work anyway. And we contain our rage, tears, fear and sadness. .... We don’t take our pain to work."
That's because work is not the place for it. This is called being professional. It might surprise you how many of your coworkers (of all races) are struggling to get out of bed in the morning and put on a happy face for Zoom meetings. Does the author really think that only Blacks have agonized over hospitalized relatives and the real possibility that they will die alone? And how about the millions of people who don't even have co-workers anymore because their jobs disappeared?
"On behalf of your Black colleagues: we’re not okay. And you shouldn’t be either."
News flash: We aren't.
That's because work is not the place for it. This is called being professional. It might surprise you how many of your coworkers (of all races) are struggling to get out of bed in the morning and put on a happy face for Zoom meetings. Does the author really think that only Blacks have agonized over hospitalized relatives and the real possibility that they will die alone? And how about the millions of people who don't even have co-workers anymore because their jobs disappeared?
"On behalf of your Black colleagues: we’re not okay. And you shouldn’t be either."
News flash: We aren't.
Anonymous
05/31/2020 08:30
Subject: Re:For people with black colleagues
Are you seriously considering bringing up racial issues at work? It's impossible to have a productive conversation about race in person which is why it plays out on social media. I'm sure your black colleagues would prefer you just have normal conversation with them.
Anonymous
05/31/2020 02:51
Subject: Re:For people with black colleagues
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"...others have had to navigate surviving a pandemic in a country they were actually never meant to live in"?
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.
An understandably traumatic event that is killing black and brown people at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. Is that you call “manufactured drama”?
No. You either misread (or misunderstood) my reference. The "manufactured drama" is the part where the author implies that in 2020, people of color are challenged with the task of navigating surviving a pandemic "in a country they were actually never meant to live in"
Perhaps their ancestors were "never meant to live in" this country? But by that standard, mine weren't either. It's just a strangely divisive setup when one isn't needed. The ACTUAL issue isn't that at all. It is what YOU called out about black and brown people being killed at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. This other stuff about how certain people "were actually never meant to live in" is a red herring.
Were your ancestors brought here by force - on a slave ship?
I get the historical context, but are you saying that one of the things that people of color are currently trying to navigate is how to navigate surviving in a pandemic "in a country they were actually never meant to live in"? It honestly doesn't seem like this particular challenge was on the mind of most people last week, but maybe i'm wrong.
Being brought here as slaves and then being subjected to overt and covert effects of racism? And then being in the group that is at a high risk of dying from this pandemic? For myself and most black people I know, ALL of these things are important. The fact that black people are treated this way comes from that “historical context”. The fact that you see all of that as “history” and you can’t see the way it still affect people TODAY truly blows my mind - and makes me sad.
Anonymous
05/31/2020 02:46
Subject: Re:For people with black colleagues
OP, my kids are bi-racial. Should I show more empathy?
Anonymous
05/31/2020 02:46
Subject: Re:For people with black colleagues
Anonymous wrote:What's up with the "white women feign terror" angle?
Is it necessary to negate another person's experience in an effort to elevate an understanding of and compassion for your own? Can't the white women feel genuine terror AND the black woman feel angry and fearful at the same time? Isn't it possible that both are true for valid reasons?
Other than this nagging question, this article was really eye-opening and something to thing on. Thank you for sharing it.
To be clear, since you sound like you have no concept of racial injustice : no one is saying that white women shouldn’t feel scared. All people should be scared if someone is threatening their safety. White women’s feigned terror is something completely different. Google it. Read “How to be an anti-racist”. Please - wake up.
Anonymous
05/31/2020 02:42
Subject: Re:For people with black colleagues
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"...others have had to navigate surviving a pandemic in a country they were actually never meant to live in"?
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.
An understandably traumatic event that is killing black and brown people at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. Is that you call “manufactured drama”?
No. You either misread (or misunderstood) my reference. The "manufactured drama" is the part where the author implies that in 2020, people of color are challenged with the task of navigating surviving a pandemic "in a country they were actually never meant to live in"
Perhaps their ancestors were "never meant to live in" this country? But by that standard, mine weren't either. It's just a strangely divisive setup when one isn't needed. The ACTUAL issue isn't that at all. It is what YOU called out about black and brown people being killed at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. This other stuff about how certain people "were actually never meant to live in" is a red herring.
Were your ancestors brought here by force - on a slave ship?
I get the historical context, but are you saying that one of the things that people of color are currently trying to navigate is how to navigate surviving in a pandemic "in a country they were actually never meant to live in"? It honestly doesn't seem like this particular challenge was on the mind of most people last week, but maybe i'm wrong.
Anonymous
05/31/2020 02:41
Subject: Re:For people with black colleagues
Anonymous wrote:What's up with the "white women feign terror" angle?
Is it necessary to negate another person's experience in an effort to elevate an understanding of and compassion for your own? Can't the white women feel genuine terror AND the black woman feel angry and fearful at the same time? Isn't it possible that both are true for valid reasons?
Other than this nagging question, this article was really eye-opening and something to thing on. Thank you for sharing it.
She’s referring to instances where white women feigned terror at the expense of black people. See Emmett Till’s case and Amy Cooper to name a few. I mean seriously, if people are having a hard time understanding this article - it’s not wonder the country is like this!
Anonymous
05/31/2020 02:36
Subject: Re:For people with black colleagues
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"...others have had to navigate surviving a pandemic in a country they were actually never meant to live in"?
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.
An understandably traumatic event that is killing black and brown people at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. Is that you call “manufactured drama”?
No. You either misread (or misunderstood) my reference. The "manufactured drama" is the part where the author implies that in 2020, people of color are challenged with the task of navigating surviving a pandemic "in a country they were actually never meant to live in"
Perhaps their ancestors were "never meant to live in" this country? But by that standard, mine weren't either. It's just a strangely divisive setup when one isn't needed. The ACTUAL issue isn't that at all. It is what YOU called out about black and brown people being killed at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. This other stuff about how certain people "were actually never meant to live in" is a red herring.
Were your ancestors brought here by force - on a slave ship?
Anonymous
05/31/2020 02:04
Subject: Re:For people with black colleagues
What's up with the "white women feign terror" angle?
Is it necessary to negate another person's experience in an effort to elevate an understanding of and compassion for your own? Can't the white women feel genuine terror AND the black woman feel angry and fearful at the same time? Isn't it possible that both are true for valid reasons?
Other than this nagging question, this article was really eye-opening and something to thing on. Thank you for sharing it.
Is it necessary to negate another person's experience in an effort to elevate an understanding of and compassion for your own? Can't the white women feel genuine terror AND the black woman feel angry and fearful at the same time? Isn't it possible that both are true for valid reasons?
Other than this nagging question, this article was really eye-opening and something to thing on. Thank you for sharing it.
Anonymous
05/31/2020 01:58
Subject: Re:For people with black colleagues
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"...others have had to navigate surviving a pandemic in a country they were actually never meant to live in"?
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.
An understandably traumatic event that is killing black and brown people at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. Is that you call “manufactured drama”?
No. You either misread (or misunderstood) my reference. The "manufactured drama" is the part where the author implies that in 2020, people of color are challenged with the task of navigating surviving a pandemic "in a country they were actually never meant to live in"
Perhaps their ancestors were "never meant to live in" this country? But by that standard, mine weren't either. It's just a strangely divisive setup when one isn't needed. The ACTUAL issue isn't that at all. It is what YOU called out about black and brown people being killed at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. This other stuff about how certain people "were actually never meant to live in" is a red herring.
Anonymous
05/31/2020 01:41
Subject: Re:For people with black colleagues
Anonymous wrote:"...others have had to navigate surviving a pandemic in a country they were actually never meant to live in"?
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.
An understandably traumatic event that is killing black and brown people at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. Is that you call “manufactured drama”?
Anonymous
05/31/2020 01:37
Subject: Re:For people with black colleagues
"...others have had to navigate surviving a pandemic in a country they were actually never meant to live in"?
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.
Anonymous
05/30/2020 17:23
Subject: For people with black colleagues
Anonymous wrote:This article expresses what they may be feeling right now and urges non-POCs to have empathy: https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/05/9841376/black-trauma-george-floyd-dear-white-people
Thank you for that. I sent it to my job's diversity office, as they have been exceptionally quiet during all this.
Anonymous
05/30/2020 14:12
Subject: For people with black colleagues
This article expresses what they may be feeling right now and urges non-POCs to have empathy: https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/05/9841376/black-trauma-george-floyd-dear-white-people