A non-supervisory GS-15 is the holy grail of federal jobs. If it has telework, you are gravy.

It's great and comes with four days a week of telework for me in non-pandemic times. Only a fool would turn it down, unless there's a compelling case not to. There will always be strivers who want the supervisory 15s, but the pay is the same as a nonsupervisory 15. Sweet gig.

Anonymous wrote:That should say that I may be able to “laterally” move to another position.

Also, it's "farther," not "further."

Best job there is.

At my agency non-supervisory 15s are living the life. I’m a non-supervisory 13 (you can’t go into management until you’re a 14 at my agency) and it’s great. I want to get promoted but frankly, I make $112K and have essentially guaranteed job security, so I’m not hugely motivated to gun for it.

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Anonymous wrote:Non-supervisory 15 is the best job in govt. if you can work out a telework deal, you should seriously consider it.

- a non-sup 15 and loving it

I respectfully disagree. It's $10,000 more per year and you get to do all the hardest work "because of your grade."

- non-supervisory 15 who hates it

I would not take a non supervisory 14 over a 15. Expectations are high for those 15s in our agency. Not in terms of quality, which isn’t a problem, but in terms of workload. I’m a non sup 14, and I feel comfortable pushing back once once in a while in a way I wouldn’t as a 15 with a job I know everyone wants. I’ve not applied for a 15 because of that. If your agency is staffed better, it might be fine. A non supervisory 15 is definitely better than a supervisory 15.

I am a supervisory GS-15 working in Bethesda and had an opportunity for a non-supervisory 15 in DC last summer. It likewise entailed a 40 minute longer commute and things weren't horrible at the time in my current job, so I ultimately bowed out of the interview process because I wasn't enamored with the opportunity. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH I REGRET THAT DECISION NOW! I hate my job and am incredibly stressed out. Hindsight is 20-20 I guess.

Op, you are a non-supervisory GS-14 and this is a non-supervisory GS-15 - I'd consider it. Plus, and this is a big IF, I think all Federal agencies will be moving towards increased telework, and even full-time remote work, in the future. Agencies are seeing that it can work now.

Anonymous wrote:Non-supervisory 15 is the best job in govt. if you can work out a telework deal, you should seriously consider it.

- a non-sup 15 and loving it

+1,000 and another non-supervisory GS-15 here. I telework two days a week and then telework plus have an alternative day off the following week. I work in a pretty specialized area that has real deliverables (unlike many Federal jobs). A non-supervisory GS 15 is the holy grail of government jobs - well paid (by government standards), important work and great flexibility in terms of role and responsibilities but without any of the very significant drawbacks of being a manager in the Federal government. I never ever want to be a supervisor in the Federal government where one is responsible for the actions of people that I can't fire (but can sue me if I try to correct their performance or make my job difficult and my office look terrible if they screw up).

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I respectfully disagree. It's $10,000 more per year and you get to do all the hardest work "because of your grade."

- non-supervisory 15 who hates it

Well, for this particular work, I’d be the only one in my field so I would definitely do all of the applicable work.

Anonymous wrote:Non-supervisory 15 is the best job in govt. if you can work out a telework deal, you should seriously consider it.

- a non-sup 15 and loving it

I respectfully disagree. It's $10,000 more per year and you get to do all the hardest work "because of your grade."

- non-supervisory 15 who hates it

Non-supervisory 15 is the best job in govt. if you can work out a telework deal, you should seriously consider it.

- a non-sup 15 and loving it

Anonymous wrote:What’s the actual difference in commutes?

In traffic, maybe 30-40 minutes each way. I do think I’d be able to telework at least 1 or 2 days a week.

What’s the actual difference in commutes?

That should say that I may be able to “laterally” move to another position.

What do you feel is the value of a Non-Supervisory 15?

I like where I work now, as a 14, and I have a 2nd interview for a Non-Supervisory 15 at another agency further from home. My job right now is stressful. I like the Agency but I’m burnt out of my actual work. I may be able to literally move to another position. In the meantime, I’m weighing the pluses and minuses of grade vs. commute. I haven’t gotten an offer yet, so this is all just in theory. But now that I got through to a 2nd interview and feel qualified to do this, I may start applying to others....and they’re likely to also have longer commutes.....this was kind of a whim.