Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 14:39     Subject: We need a college "camp" to open as a test
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Anonymous wrote:Daycare never closed. Isn’t that kinda the same thing as college?


No. Daycare students are supervised all of the time. They also don't sleep there. Do I need to go on?


Is covid more contagious during sleep?


No, but time spent exposed to contagions is associated with increased risks, so being somewhere 24-7 creates issues that being somewhere 9-5 doesn't.


I would think that the fact that toddlers can’t wear masks, can’t stay even inches apart, and can’t keep their bodily fluids to themselves would sort of even out the difference.


It's another example of how they're different, and that you can't draw conclusions from one, and apply them to others.

Also, it seems that there are differences between the way that the virus is spread by adults vs. young children.

If you want examples of how adults have fared in congregate care situations, you need to look at residential schools for teenagers with disabilities, half way houses, prisons, workers dormitories, and nursing homes. All of them have had very high rates of spread. And while many of those cases are asymptomatic, in a college setting, all those people would then take the germs home over breaks, and infect their home communities.


The other issue is that while most healthy traditional college age students may fair relatively well with COVID, the others on campus such as non-traditional age students, faculty, and other college staff may not do as well. Some of my older daughter’s best professors were over 65.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 14:35     Subject: We need a college "camp" to open as a test
Anonymous wrote:I thought liberty was in session? How did they function? How did they handle cases of covid 19?


They didn’t have to handle any cases, because there were zero cases.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 14:33     Subject: We need a college "camp" to open as a test
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Daycare never closed. Isn’t that kinda the same thing as college?


No. Daycare students are supervised all of the time. They also don't sleep there. Do I need to go on?


Is covid more contagious during sleep?


No, but time spent exposed to contagions is associated with increased risks, so being somewhere 24-7 creates issues that being somewhere 9-5 doesn't.


I would think that the fact that toddlers can’t wear masks, can’t stay even inches apart, and can’t keep their bodily fluids to themselves would sort of even out the difference.


It's another example of how they're different, and that you can't draw conclusions from one, and apply them to others.

Also, it seems that there are differences between the way that the virus is spread by adults vs. young children.

If you want examples of how adults have fared in congregate care situations, you need to look at residential schools for teenagers with disabilities, half way houses, prisons, workers dormitories, and nursing homes. All of them have had very high rates of spread. And while many of those cases are asymptomatic, in a college setting, all those people would then take the germs home over breaks, and infect their home communities.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 14:22     Subject: We need a college "camp" to open as a test
UCSD has 5000 students still on campus. It is running a testing program now to work on logistics for the fall.

They may be working on other aspects of campus life as well.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/education/story/2020-05-15/uc-san-diego-begins-mass-testing-students-for-novel-coronavirus
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 13:40     Subject: We need a college "camp" to open as a test
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Daycare never closed. Isn’t that kinda the same thing as college?


No. Daycare students are supervised all of the time. They also don't sleep there. Do I need to go on?


Is covid more contagious during sleep?


No, but time spent exposed to contagions is associated with increased risks, so being somewhere 24-7 creates issues that being somewhere 9-5 doesn't.


I would think that the fact that toddlers can’t wear masks, can’t stay even inches apart, and can’t keep their bodily fluids to themselves would sort of even out the difference.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 12:22     Subject: We need a college "camp" to open as a test
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Daycare never closed. Isn’t that kinda the same thing as college?


No. Daycare students are supervised all of the time. They also don't sleep there. Do I need to go on?


Is covid more contagious during sleep?


No, but time spent exposed to contagions is associated with increased risks, so being somewhere 24-7 creates issues that being somewhere 9-5 doesn't.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 19:03     Subject: We need a college "camp" to open as a test
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Anonymous wrote:Use your kids not others.


This.


My kids are home and giving me no issues about it. But their legions of apparently invincible friends (and their families) think we're being ridiculous. There are so many deny-ers out there that it should be easy to get kids to go and staff to work to make it feasible to operate. Half the country is on unemployment anyway.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 18:43     Subject: We need a college "camp" to open as a test
Anonymous wrote:Use your kids not others.


This.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 18:41     Subject: We need a college "camp" to open as a test
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Daycare never closed. Isn’t that kinda the same thing as college?


No. Daycare students are supervised all of the time. They also don't sleep there. Do I need to go on?


Is covid more contagious during sleep?
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 18:32     Subject: We need a college "camp" to open as a test
Use your kids not others.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 18:22     Subject: We need a college "camp" to open as a test
Anonymous wrote:Daycare never closed. Isn’t that kinda the same thing as college?


No. Daycare students are supervised all of the time. They also don't sleep there. Do I need to go on?
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 18:18     Subject: We need a college "camp" to open as a test
I thought liberty was in session? How did they function? How did they handle cases of covid 19?
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 18:10     Subject: Re:We need a college "camp" to open as a test
Several colleges have done mini-versions of this--for quick training of public health workers on campus. They have lived on campus and tested out various social distancing strategies. But it's a smaller group of people and being trained for public health a different level of awareness/concern than the typical undergraduate. But even then there are a lot of unanticipated sources of exposure when people are eating,sleeping, studying,socializing in groups on campus. Nonetheless, these enacted trial runs are important to figuring out how to actually implement all these social distancing strategies.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 17:30     Subject: We need a college "camp" to open as a test
Daycare never closed. Isn’t that kinda the same thing as college?
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 17:27     Subject: We need a college "camp" to open as a test
Since all of these college kids think they'll be okay, let's experiment. Open a "summer camp" of sorts where they can live together, play sports, take some recreational classes. Devise a waiver they sign. The rest of the country can sit back and watch what happens from that to make decisions for fall. Medical people can test them and watch trends. It would be cheaper for the government to fund that camp than some other programs and we'd learn a lot.

There's totally enough guinea pigs that would go for this!