Anonymous
05/05/2020 10:53
Subject: Re:Parents accuse day care centers of issuing threats: Pay up or else
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree. Crazy would be them trying to force you to pay and stay at the center. As long as you have the option to stop paying, I don’t see how you have a legitimate gripe. But you also can’t expect them to hold your spot for you if they are able to find people who will pay during the closure to have the spot.
Do you really think it is reasonable to ask a business to do this when they still have rent and other costs they have to pay?
You truly think that parents who are now having to pay for alternative childcare arrangements should continue to pay several thousand dollars a month to daycares that closed their doors in March and have no projected reopening date? Why? The daycare employees are not being paid and they are collecting UI. The daycare isn't using much in utilities as noone is there. They aren't preparing meals or using supplies. Frankly, their rent payment isn't the parents problem. Attempting to charge full price for literally no service is unconscionable and the real madness is that a fair number of parents seem to accept it.
You didn’t read what I wrote. Parents are free to not pay. But they can’t expect the spot to be waiting for them.
If you argue that the daycares rent isn’t the parents problem, why shouldn’t the daycare say whether you have a spot when this is over isn’t their problem?
Full price is a lot, and I agree some expenses are lower, but I don’t think charging to retain the spot is crazy. If they don’t do that, I don’t think they will be there on the other end.
Anonymous
05/04/2020 21:08
Subject: Re:Parents accuse day care centers of issuing threats: Pay up or else
Anonymous wrote:I agree. Crazy would be them trying to force you to pay and stay at the center. As long as you have the option to stop paying, I don’t see how you have a legitimate gripe. But you also can’t expect them to hold your spot for you if they are able to find people who will pay during the closure to have the spot.
Do you really think it is reasonable to ask a business to do this when they still have rent and other costs they have to pay?
You truly think that parents who are now having to pay for alternative childcare arrangements should continue to pay several thousand dollars a month to daycares that closed their doors in March and have no projected reopening date? Why? The daycare employees are not being paid and they are collecting UI. The daycare isn't using much in utilities as noone is there. They aren't preparing meals or using supplies. Frankly, their rent payment isn't the parents problem. Attempting to charge full price for literally no service is unconscionable and the real madness is that a fair number of parents seem to accept it.
Anonymous
05/04/2020 12:51
Subject: Re:Parents accuse day care centers of issuing threats: Pay up or else
I agree. Crazy would be them trying to force you to pay and stay at the center. As long as you have the option to stop paying, I don’t see how you have a legitimate gripe. But you also can’t expect them to hold your spot for you if they are able to find people who will pay during the closure to have the spot.
Do you really think it is reasonable to ask a business to do this when they still have rent and other costs they have to pay?
Do you really think it is reasonable to ask a business to do this when they still have rent and other costs they have to pay?
Anonymous
05/04/2020 08:55
Subject: Parents accuse day care centers of issuing threats: Pay up or else
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How is letting parents know that they'll lose their spot if they decline to pay tuition an unlawful threat? If a daycare center is doing the right thing by continuing to pay their staff while having to close, and on top of that they are releasing any parents who want to leave from their contractual obligation to continue paying, are you going to punish them for offering the spots to waitlisted families who are willing to pitch in? Sounds like entitled millennial parents who want to have their cake and eat it too.
This is crazy. There is no contractual obligation for a parent to continue to pay if a daycare is not delivering the service within the contract. Its absolutely unethical to say, "Pay us for daycare we are not providing you or we'll give your spot away to someone who is willing to pay for nothing to hold their spot". And I'm coming from the opinion of a Gen Xer not a Millennial. It's wonderful that parents want to continue to support their daycares through "donations" (because that's really what monthly payments are right now, when it comes down to it) and we are, because we can afford to do it right now. But I'm absolutely livid at the thought of daycares giving away peoples spots when they can't afford to pay due to changes in employment during COVID 19. So those with the most money get to claim the spots because they are willing to pay?? I guess that's DC for you!
You can choose to continue being a client or not, nobody is forcing you to pay. If they are unable to provide services, that's one hell of a good reason to decide not to be a client anymore. But if you are no longer a client, you have no claim to a reserved spot. I don't see what's crazy about it.
Anonymous
05/01/2020 20:46
Subject: Parents accuse day care centers of issuing threats: Pay up or else
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How is letting parents know that they'll lose their spot if they decline to pay tuition an unlawful threat? If a daycare center is doing the right thing by continuing to pay their staff while having to close, and on top of that they are releasing any parents who want to leave from their contractual obligation to continue paying, are you going to punish them for offering the spots to waitlisted families who are willing to pitch in? Sounds like entitled millennial parents who want to have their cake and eat it too.
This is crazy. There is no contractual obligation for a parent to continue to pay if a daycare is not delivering the service within the contract. Its absolutely unethical to say, "Pay us for daycare we are not providing you or we'll give your spot away to someone who is willing to pay for nothing to hold their spot". And I'm coming from the opinion of a Gen Xer not a Millennial. It's wonderful that parents want to continue to support their daycares through "donations" (because that's really what monthly payments are right now, when it comes down to it) and we are, because we can afford to do it right now. But I'm absolutely livid at the thought of daycares giving away peoples spots when they can't afford to pay due to changes in employment during COVID 19. So those with the most money get to claim the spots because they are willing to pay?? I guess that's DC for you!
No, that’s not DC, that’s capitalism for you.
Nobody is guaranteed a place at a private day care. It’s not a right, it’s a business.
If you don’t like it, change how you vote.
Touche. Yes, I guess that is capitalism at its finest.
Anonymous
05/01/2020 20:25
Subject: Parents accuse day care centers of issuing threats: Pay up or else
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How is letting parents know that they'll lose their spot if they decline to pay tuition an unlawful threat? If a daycare center is doing the right thing by continuing to pay their staff while having to close, and on top of that they are releasing any parents who want to leave from their contractual obligation to continue paying, are you going to punish them for offering the spots to waitlisted families who are willing to pitch in? Sounds like entitled millennial parents who want to have their cake and eat it too.
This is crazy. There is no contractual obligation for a parent to continue to pay if a daycare is not delivering the service within the contract. Its absolutely unethical to say, "Pay us for daycare we are not providing you or we'll give your spot away to someone who is willing to pay for nothing to hold their spot". And I'm coming from the opinion of a Gen Xer not a Millennial. It's wonderful that parents want to continue to support their daycares through "donations" (because that's really what monthly payments are right now, when it comes down to it) and we are, because we can afford to do it right now. But I'm absolutely livid at the thought of daycares giving away peoples spots when they can't afford to pay due to changes in employment during COVID 19. So those with the most money get to claim the spots because they are willing to pay?? I guess that's DC for you!
Well, yes. People with money always have it easier than those who do not. In this case, people who can afford to pay will be assured of a spot when daycares reopen. People who cannot will have to apply for a new spot and wait if necessary.
Anonymous
05/01/2020 20:23
Subject: Parents accuse day care centers of issuing threats: Pay up or else
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How is letting parents know that they'll lose their spot if they decline to pay tuition an unlawful threat? If a daycare center is doing the right thing by continuing to pay their staff while having to close, and on top of that they are releasing any parents who want to leave from their contractual obligation to continue paying, are you going to punish them for offering the spots to waitlisted families who are willing to pitch in? Sounds like entitled millennial parents who want to have their cake and eat it too.
This is crazy. There is no contractual obligation for a parent to continue to pay if a daycare is not delivering the service within the contract. Its absolutely unethical to say, "Pay us for daycare we are not providing you or we'll give your spot away to someone who is willing to pay for nothing to hold their spot". And I'm coming from the opinion of a Gen Xer not a Millennial. It's wonderful that parents want to continue to support their daycares through "donations" (because that's really what monthly payments are right now, when it comes down to it) and we are, because we can afford to do it right now. But I'm absolutely livid at the thought of daycares giving away peoples spots when they can't afford to pay due to changes in employment during COVID 19. So those with the most money get to claim the spots because they are willing to pay?? I guess that's DC for you!
No, that’s not DC, that’s capitalism for you.
Nobody is guaranteed a place at a private day care. It’s not a right, it’s a business.
If you don’t like it, change how you vote.
Anonymous
05/01/2020 20:18
Subject: Parents accuse day care centers of issuing threats: Pay up or else
Anonymous wrote:How is letting parents know that they'll lose their spot if they decline to pay tuition an unlawful threat? If a daycare center is doing the right thing by continuing to pay their staff while having to close, and on top of that they are releasing any parents who want to leave from their contractual obligation to continue paying, are you going to punish them for offering the spots to waitlisted families who are willing to pitch in? Sounds like entitled millennial parents who want to have their cake and eat it too.
This is crazy. There is no contractual obligation for a parent to continue to pay if a daycare is not delivering the service within the contract. Its absolutely unethical to say, "Pay us for daycare we are not providing you or we'll give your spot away to someone who is willing to pay for nothing to hold their spot". And I'm coming from the opinion of a Gen Xer not a Millennial. It's wonderful that parents want to continue to support their daycares through "donations" (because that's really what monthly payments are right now, when it comes down to it) and we are, because we can afford to do it right now. But I'm absolutely livid at the thought of daycares giving away peoples spots when they can't afford to pay due to changes in employment during COVID 19. So those with the most money get to claim the spots because they are willing to pay?? I guess that's DC for you!
Anonymous
04/30/2020 18:32
Subject: Parents accuse day care centers of issuing threats: Pay up or else
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unemployment is skyrocketing so unless you are at a really highly desirable daycare center I am sure there will be vacancies.
+1.
If by the time they reopen, the 10-people-per-classroom rule is still in effect, capacity may be severely limited by centers having to reshuffle the remaining families among the available classrooms. Also, by the time families who left want to come back, their spots may have been taken over by families from the waitlist who had the means to cover tuition while the center was closed. It's not unusual for someone who gets to the top of the waitlist to pay for a couple of months of tuition before they are ready to take the spot.
Anonymous
04/30/2020 18:00
Subject: Parents accuse day care centers of issuing threats: Pay up or else
Anonymous wrote:Unemployment is skyrocketing so unless you are at a really highly desirable daycare center I am sure there will be vacancies.
+1.
Anonymous
04/30/2020 17:51
Subject: Re:Parents accuse day care centers of issuing threats: Pay up or else
Anonymous
04/30/2020 17:15
Subject: Parents accuse day care centers of issuing threats: Pay up or else
How is letting parents know that they'll lose their spot if they decline to pay tuition an unlawful threat? If a daycare center is doing the right thing by continuing to pay their staff while having to close, and on top of that they are releasing any parents who want to leave from their contractual obligation to continue paying, are you going to punish them for offering the spots to waitlisted families who are willing to pitch in? Sounds like entitled millennial parents who want to have their cake and eat it too.
Anonymous
04/30/2020 15:43
Subject: Parents accuse day care centers of issuing threats: Pay up or else
Anonymous wrote:Unemployment is skyrocketing so unless you are at a really highly desirable daycare center I am sure there will be vacancies.
We've had to wait many months to get off waitlists in NWDC, so we are going to keep paying! Perhaps it is easier to get spots further out? There are a very limited number of daycares that are close to our apartment or offices.
Anonymous
04/30/2020 14:43
Subject: Parents accuse day care centers of issuing threats: Pay up or else
Unemployment is skyrocketing so unless you are at a really highly desirable daycare center I am sure there will be vacancies.
Anonymous
04/30/2020 11:01
Subject: Parents accuse day care centers of issuing threats: Pay up or else
Racine says his office has only received three complaints but if other parents are receiving ultimatums to pay up or else he would like to know about it. His office can be reached at 202-442-9828 or via email at consumer.protection@dc.gov.
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/parents-accuse-day-care-centers-of-issuing-threats-pay-up-or-else
If we want to make a difference, we all need to make our voice heard.
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/parents-accuse-day-care-centers-of-issuing-threats-pay-up-or-else
If we want to make a difference, we all need to make our voice heard.