Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet the students on those teams are precisely the type of students most colleges and universities want. Why? Because those scholar athletes bring something special to the table. They are leaders. They are determined. They understand the concepts of effort and self-regulation. They get along well with others because they are used to working on a team. They work hard because they understand that strong input results in strong output. It would be extremely shortsighted for any university to start cutting sports teams.

Oh please. Enough with the glorification of athletes. High school is over; nobody cares.

In my town the Division I Lady volleyball and Lady gymnastics regularly bring in fan counts of around 14,000 people per event to watch the event. I guess 14,000 people care.

Then that college should obviously keep those sports. I am talking about colleges being forced to keep sports that have to be heavily subsidized by student fees or other sports teams. If 14,000 people are attending or they get enough interest to generate tv revenue by all means keep them. If they don't they should be cut.

Anonymous wrote:I thought they just need to hand out equal scholly money to males and females if they take public funds ( which almost all do)

Title 9. This is the law.

Well -- Title IX still exists and is not going to be repealed so it is silly to discuss.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet the students on those teams are precisely the type of students most colleges and universities want. Why? Because those scholar athletes bring something special to the table. They are leaders. They are determined. They understand the concepts of effort and self-regulation. They get along well with others because they are used to working on a team. They work hard because they understand that strong input results in strong output. It would be extremely shortsighted for any university to start cutting sports teams.

Oh please. Enough with the glorification of athletes. High school is over; nobody cares.

In my town the Division I Lady volleyball and Lady gymnastics regularly bring in fan counts of around 14,000 people per event to watch the event. I guess 14,000 people care.

Sportsball!

What’s your interest in seeing these sports cut, OP? You bitter an athlete was admitted when your kid wasn’t? Hoping your HS kid will have a better chance at an elite?

Anonymous wrote:Yet the students on those teams are precisely the type of students most colleges and universities want. Why? Because those scholar athletes bring something special to the table. They are leaders. They are determined. They understand the concepts of effort and self-regulation. They get along well with others because they are used to working on a team. They work hard because they understand that strong input results in strong output. It would be extremely shortsighted for any university to start cutting sports teams.

Oh please. Enough with the glorification of athletes. High school is over; nobody cares.

Anonymous wrote:I thought they just need to hand out equal scholly money to males and females if they take public funds ( which almost all do)

So keep women's sports that are successful like college softball. On average over 1.8 million people watched each game of the 3 game final of the women's college softball World Series. More than watched men's baseball college final. Dump women and men's golf and tennis, and soccer and rowing.

Anonymous wrote:By that logic, should my athlete be forced to pay for services that she won’t use? I know many students who get a lot of free accommodations and support services from her college but she doesn’t get that because she doesn’t have a learning disability.

You could also say that my English major cost my college a lot less than lab science majors so why should I get charged the same?

Sports are part of college for some (many) students so I don’t see why fees can’t cover them.

I think more and more, people are starting to make calculations like this. I know several families that chose Canadian schools like McGill which are much less costly even for foreign students. They do not spend significant money on sports

Anonymous wrote:Yet the students on those teams are precisely the type of students most colleges and universities want. Why? Because those scholar athletes bring something special to the table. They are leaders. They are determined. They understand the concepts of effort and self-regulation. They get along well with others because they are used to working on a team. They work hard because they understand that strong input results in strong output. It would be extremely shortsighted for any university to start cutting sports teams.

You have got to be kidding.

It probably makes sense to have U23 teams that aren't connected to university, but I doubt this culture is going to change any time soon.

I thought they just need to hand out equal scholly money to males and females if they take public funds ( which almost all do)

By that logic, should my athlete be forced to pay for services that she won’t use? I know many students who get a lot of free accommodations and support services from her college but she doesn’t get that because she doesn’t have a learning disability.

You could also say that my English major cost my college a lot less than lab science majors so why should I get charged the same?

Sports are part of college for some (many) students so I don’t see why fees can’t cover them.

Yet the students on those teams are precisely the type of students most colleges and universities want. Why? Because those scholar athletes bring something special to the table. They are leaders. They are determined. They understand the concepts of effort and self-regulation. They get along well with others because they are used to working on a team. They work hard because they understand that strong input results in strong output. It would be extremely shortsighted for any university to start cutting sports teams.

The NCAA mandates that schools with revenue producing sports teams like football have in some cases 16 other sports teams. Colleges are trying to get waivers to be able to cut some of these teams. Here is an article with a chart that explains sports like football, men and women's basketball teams, men's hockey make money. Two other sports like baseball and track and field at least earn a million dollars on average, although track and field probably has a huge roster. Sports like tennis, golf, cross country, and men and women's soccer need to be subsidized because they don't make enough money
https://www.businessinsider.com/college-sports-revenue-2016-10

And who has to subsidize these sports that don't make money and barely anyone goes and watches- students! At JMU students are paying 2,000 dollars every year to subsidize sports teams. That is $8,000 over 4 years.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/education/hidden-figures-college-students-may-be-paying-thousands-athletic-fees-n1145171

Colleges should not be forced to have a certain number of sports teams.