Anonymous
04/20/2020 22:55
Subject: Who will Benefit from the DA's demise?
Anonymous wrote:U18 ECNL DD graduating, this is just my take.
For the elite boys, MLS academies.
ECNL obviously benefits the most overall, as most ex-DA players will move. Top ex-DA players will unseat starters, moving down ECNL players and so forth. ex-DA bubble players that can't break into ECNL spot will go to top teams outside of ECNL; it's possible bumped down ECNL players do the same. So McLean, Loudoun, BRYC, VDA... players will dictate age group movement but all will get stronger but the best (serious) players move to ECNL.
After ECNL, larger clubs will benefit from this. So it ain't so, but many ex-DA bubble players and bumped down ECNL players will prefer to play on top teams. With USYS looking to replace what DA was, there's still a lure to these programs and looking plausible to bring some in. So this is where Arlington, SYC, Alexandria, Herndon get a boost; I'm curious what becomes of FCV and MU. FCV possibly moving to TSJ came at a bad time (not sure how you practice indoors when doors are closed, especially with social distancing indoors), and MU just in a rough location.
Who's likely to lose out on the most, well, probably smaller and/or failing clubs. COVID-19 will push out a lot of players reducing how many players exist. Without a large player pool, and with talent getting more centralized, smaller clubs lose out, but I also bet any club that was failing or getting smaller could go through this as well. I'm not sure of the landscape anymore, but I recall Ellicott City having problems a couple years ago and having to move into lower leagues. I would guess clubs like Great Falls Reston, Lee Mt Vernon, Leesburg could be impacted the most since player movement is generally always up, but more so because now many players may not be returning. It could really be a set back.
So in general, ECNL and ex-DA fight for ECNL, removed ECNL and bubble ex-DA move to established non-ECNL clubs, and smaller/failing clubs get hit the hardest.
Being at so-called “smaller” club and ignoring that elitist mentality, I can’t say this is wrong. Saw more change this past year than what was ‘discussed’, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see more. Nearby ECNL will probably take one of DD teammates just because, and I know everybody can’t afford next season. There are other options for us, thankfully... just didn’t expect so much change this year again.
Anonymous
04/20/2020 15:50
Subject: Who will Benefit from the DA's demise?
U18 ECNL DD graduating, this is just my take.
For the elite boys, MLS academies.
ECNL obviously benefits the most overall, as most ex-DA players will move. Top ex-DA players will unseat starters, moving down ECNL players and so forth. ex-DA bubble players that can't break into ECNL spot will go to top teams outside of ECNL; it's possible bumped down ECNL players do the same. So McLean, Loudoun, BRYC, VDA... players will dictate age group movement but all will get stronger but the best (serious) players move to ECNL.
After ECNL, larger clubs will benefit from this. So it ain't so, but many ex-DA bubble players and bumped down ECNL players will prefer to play on top teams. With USYS looking to replace what DA was, there's still a lure to these programs and looking plausible to bring some in. So this is where Arlington, SYC, Alexandria, Herndon get a boost; I'm curious what becomes of FCV and MU. FCV possibly moving to TSJ came at a bad time (not sure how you practice indoors when doors are closed, especially with social distancing indoors), and MU just in a rough location.
Who's likely to lose out on the most, well, probably smaller and/or failing clubs. COVID-19 will push out a lot of players reducing how many players exist. Without a large player pool, and with talent getting more centralized, smaller clubs lose out, but I also bet any club that was failing or getting smaller could go through this as well. I'm not sure of the landscape anymore, but I recall Ellicott City having problems a couple years ago and having to move into lower leagues. I would guess clubs like Great Falls Reston, Lee Mt Vernon, Leesburg could be impacted the most since player movement is generally always up, but more so because now many players may not be returning. It could really be a set back.
So in general, ECNL and ex-DA fight for ECNL, removed ECNL and bubble ex-DA move to established non-ECNL clubs, and smaller/failing clubs get hit the hardest.
For the elite boys, MLS academies.
ECNL obviously benefits the most overall, as most ex-DA players will move. Top ex-DA players will unseat starters, moving down ECNL players and so forth. ex-DA bubble players that can't break into ECNL spot will go to top teams outside of ECNL; it's possible bumped down ECNL players do the same. So McLean, Loudoun, BRYC, VDA... players will dictate age group movement but all will get stronger but the best (serious) players move to ECNL.
After ECNL, larger clubs will benefit from this. So it ain't so, but many ex-DA bubble players and bumped down ECNL players will prefer to play on top teams. With USYS looking to replace what DA was, there's still a lure to these programs and looking plausible to bring some in. So this is where Arlington, SYC, Alexandria, Herndon get a boost; I'm curious what becomes of FCV and MU. FCV possibly moving to TSJ came at a bad time (not sure how you practice indoors when doors are closed, especially with social distancing indoors), and MU just in a rough location.
Who's likely to lose out on the most, well, probably smaller and/or failing clubs. COVID-19 will push out a lot of players reducing how many players exist. Without a large player pool, and with talent getting more centralized, smaller clubs lose out, but I also bet any club that was failing or getting smaller could go through this as well. I'm not sure of the landscape anymore, but I recall Ellicott City having problems a couple years ago and having to move into lower leagues. I would guess clubs like Great Falls Reston, Lee Mt Vernon, Leesburg could be impacted the most since player movement is generally always up, but more so because now many players may not be returning. It could really be a set back.
So in general, ECNL and ex-DA fight for ECNL, removed ECNL and bubble ex-DA move to established non-ECNL clubs, and smaller/failing clubs get hit the hardest.
Anonymous
04/20/2020 14:08
Subject: Re:Who will Benefit from the DA's demise?
Take the kid with upside. That is the one benefit of this closed league. You take the upside kid and teach her. The closed league will have customers because of the brand so you can within reason, take upside kid. Your expertise are what we are paying for so use it.
The youth soccer is for rich kids train has left the station. Nothing can be done about it that I can see. Ussf probably was the one organization that could have helped curtail that with their league and they blew it. Doubled down on the rich kid thing and blew their opportunity.
The youth soccer is for rich kids train has left the station. Nothing can be done about it that I can see. Ussf probably was the one organization that could have helped curtail that with their league and they blew it. Doubled down on the rich kid thing and blew their opportunity.
Anonymous
04/20/2020 13:58
Subject: Who will Benefit from the DA's demise?
Anonymous wrote:MLS, SUM, and US Soccer
ding, ding ding, we have a winner
Anonymous
04/20/2020 12:03
Subject: Who will Benefit from the DA's demise?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My bet is on McLean and Loudoun and non-ECNL teams.
The DA closure is good for local youth soccer. Instead of 7 teams playing in elite travel soccer leagues, we will only have four. Mclean will increase its profile as former DA players from Arlington and MU and a few from FCV, make their way to McLean. There will be more than a few players who were from Loudoun before moving to FCV and who now will return to Loudoun.
I also see strong local non-ECNL benefiting from girls who aren't on ECNL rosters but who played ECNL and DA last year.
The process will be painful for many but there will be opportunity.
Notice that you didn’t mention “kids” as a beneficiary.
It’s actually a bad thing there will be less elite options. So at u12(pre-ecnl now) you determine who is and who is not an elite player? I see girls at u12 who are maxing out their play(they are at 100% on every play but there is no upside) and I see other girls who are in cruise control(ie they have a huge up side-skill and/or athleticism but only go 100% a few times a game) but they are 11-12 years old. In three years who knows what you will have?
If I am a coach I could see taking the maxed out player over the huge upside because I only care about winning this year. Remember you are cutting the rosters basically in 1/2 for “elite” kids. Also you will lose kids because the drive to practice is too much. The current ecnl clubs are great if you live outside the beltway in Va and Montgomery County but if you live in PG, DC and some parts of Alexandria/Arlington it’s may not be an option. This will just reenforce the win at each age group mentality and make soccer even more of a must have money to play sport.
Anonymous
04/20/2020 10:36
Subject: Who will Benefit from the DA's demise?
Anonymous wrote:DC United will be stronger
Maybe. The problem with DC United in my view is the coaching. I don't believe there are plans to change that.
Anonymous
04/20/2020 10:21
Subject: Re:Who will Benefit from the DA's demise?
Anonymous wrote:Is all this information on the girls or boys side??????
I have boys and as far as I know ECNL sucks on the boys side!
On this board, always assume they are talking about girls unless it explicitly says "boys" in the title of the thread. For some reason, parents of girls are ~2x as insane about all the politics and machinations of youth soccer as parents of boys. Hard to believe, but if you read posts here for very long, it seems obvious.
Anonymous
04/18/2020 14:42
Subject: Who will Benefit from the DA's demise?
DC United will be stronger
Anonymous
04/18/2020 14:38
Subject: Re:Who will Benefit from the DA's demise?
Is all this information on the girls or boys side??????
I have boys and as far as I know ECNL sucks on the boys side!
I have boys and as far as I know ECNL sucks on the boys side!
Anonymous
04/18/2020 13:48
Subject: Who will Benefit from the DA's demise?
MLS, SUM, and US Soccer
Anonymous
04/18/2020 13:47
Subject: Who will Benefit from the DA's demise?
Anonymous wrote:My bet is on McLean and Loudoun and non-ECNL teams.
The DA closure is good for local youth soccer. Instead of 7 teams playing in elite travel soccer leagues, we will only have four. Mclean will increase its profile as former DA players from Arlington and MU and a few from FCV, make their way to McLean. There will be more than a few players who were from Loudoun before moving to FCV and who now will return to Loudoun.
I also see strong local non-ECNL benefiting from girls who aren't on ECNL rosters but who played ECNL and DA last year.
The process will be painful for many but there will be opportunity.
Notice that you didn’t mention “kids” as a beneficiary.
Anonymous
04/18/2020 13:30
Subject: Who will Benefit from the DA's demise?
Anonymous wrote:In every age group, kids will be displaced by former DA playera one way or another. Either bumped off their ecnl team or bumped off their travel team. If there are fewer teams but the same # of players in the region, then it's unavoidable.
I agree. I think some kids playing in the high divisions will be replaced by former DA players. But I’m also thinking that former DA teams will stick together.
Anonymous
04/18/2020 12:40
Subject: Who will Benefit from the DA's demise?
Here’s my crystal ball.
Mclean for sure. All of Arlington girls will be trying to go there just like they were 3 years ago. Since Mclean prefers the shiny new player over the ones they have I am guessing (depending on age group) that 1/3 of the new team will consist of Arlington players. The top 1/3 from MU will split between Mclean and BRYC. So add another 2 players to McLean and 2 to BRYC. The other MU players will stay at GRF or go to a travel club closer to their homes. FCV is a wildcard. These girls (parents) want their kid on the best team in the area. If top 3 players leave everyone jumps ship. So I think where they go will depend on age group and coaches. 03 will head to BRYC or McLean. The 04 group may consider VDA if Mikey is coaching, 05 to McLean, 06 to VDA, 07 might split between Mclean and Loudoun. I think Mclean teams will all have some serious shakeups and current players. They will either bump girls down or take gigantic rosters and have a huge bench. Knowing Mclean my guess is the later. You can’t replace 75% of a team so I’m going to bet on giant rosters.
Mclean for sure. All of Arlington girls will be trying to go there just like they were 3 years ago. Since Mclean prefers the shiny new player over the ones they have I am guessing (depending on age group) that 1/3 of the new team will consist of Arlington players. The top 1/3 from MU will split between Mclean and BRYC. So add another 2 players to McLean and 2 to BRYC. The other MU players will stay at GRF or go to a travel club closer to their homes. FCV is a wildcard. These girls (parents) want their kid on the best team in the area. If top 3 players leave everyone jumps ship. So I think where they go will depend on age group and coaches. 03 will head to BRYC or McLean. The 04 group may consider VDA if Mikey is coaching, 05 to McLean, 06 to VDA, 07 might split between Mclean and Loudoun. I think Mclean teams will all have some serious shakeups and current players. They will either bump girls down or take gigantic rosters and have a huge bench. Knowing Mclean my guess is the later. You can’t replace 75% of a team so I’m going to bet on giant rosters.
Anonymous
04/18/2020 11:57
Subject: Who will Benefit from the DA's demise?
In every age group, kids will be displaced by former DA playera one way or another. Either bumped off their ecnl team or bumped off their travel team. If there are fewer teams but the same # of players in the region, then it's unavoidable.
Anonymous
04/18/2020 11:53
Subject: Who will Benefit from the DA's demise?
My bet is on McLean and Loudoun and non-ECNL teams.
The DA closure is good for local youth soccer. Instead of 7 teams playing in elite travel soccer leagues, we will only have four. Mclean will increase its profile as former DA players from Arlington and MU and a few from FCV, make their way to McLean. There will be more than a few players who were from Loudoun before moving to FCV and who now will return to Loudoun.
I also see strong local non-ECNL benefiting from girls who aren't on ECNL rosters but who played ECNL and DA last year.
The process will be painful for many but there will be opportunity.
The DA closure is good for local youth soccer. Instead of 7 teams playing in elite travel soccer leagues, we will only have four. Mclean will increase its profile as former DA players from Arlington and MU and a few from FCV, make their way to McLean. There will be more than a few players who were from Loudoun before moving to FCV and who now will return to Loudoun.
I also see strong local non-ECNL benefiting from girls who aren't on ECNL rosters but who played ECNL and DA last year.
The process will be painful for many but there will be opportunity.