Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the perspective of ECNL. A short term perspective is that because tryouts are problematic, a delayed fall league start is possible, and rejecting FCV, ASA, and Metro clubs would be chaos, they will accept them all, or 2/3. They could then rely on a pro/rel arrangement to thin that out in subsequent years. In the near term, this would allow a more local content in each conference, lessening travel.

A longer term perspective is that 7 clubs in the metro area is too much for elite level competition. They could choose to take the short term pain, and reject all 3. This would cause the ex-DA teams to crumble and a real mess at tryout time. The existing 4 local ECNL clubs would prosper. This would also be the route they take if they want to punish DA clubs for past sins.

Why wouldn't ECNL take the path you mentioned at the end, which results in "the existing 4 local ECNL clubs would prosper."? Wouldn't that be in their best interest?

As a league and for their member clubs, yes it would be in their best interest long term. It would put an end to the dilution and return high level play to the local ECNL clubs. It would however, hurt many of the players on those clubs who might be displaced by ex-DA players. I think the former consideration is likely more important to them than the effects on players.
With that said, ECNL has some other goals in mind. They now own NPL, and have rebranded it as ECNL RL. It appears they want to establish the top two tiers of a national/regional system. Pro/rel may or not be a part of that. and I only point this out because it may be to their advantage to rope in as many clubs as possible now.

Lord have mercy.

ECNL doesn't now own NPL.

ECNL and NPL are both under US Club Soccer. These just renamed NPL to ECNL - R.

Nothing has really changed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the perspective of ECNL. A short term perspective is that because tryouts are problematic, a delayed fall league start is possible, and rejecting FCV, ASA, and Metro clubs would be chaos, they will accept them all, or 2/3. They could then rely on a pro/rel arrangement to thin that out in subsequent years. In the near term, this would allow a more local content in each conference, lessening travel.

A longer term perspective is that 7 clubs in the metro area is too much for elite level competition. They could choose to take the short term pain, and reject all 3. This would cause the ex-DA teams to crumble and a real mess at tryout time. The existing 4 local ECNL clubs would prosper. This would also be the route they take if they want to punish DA clubs for past sins.

Why wouldn't ECNL take the path you mentioned at the end, which results in "the existing 4 local ECNL clubs would prosper."? Wouldn't that be in their best interest?

As a league and for their member clubs, yes it would be in their best interest long term. It would put an end to the dilution and return high level play to the local ECNL clubs. It would however, hurt many of the players on those clubs who might be displaced by ex-DA players. I think the former consideration is likely more important to them than the effects on players.
With that said, ECNL has some other goals in mind. They now own NPL, and have rebranded it as ECNL RL. It appears they want to establish the top two tiers of a national/regional system. Pro/rel may or not be a part of that. and I only point this out because it may be to their advantage to rope in as many clubs as possible now.

Its irresponsible to suggest that ECNL will take 3 teams (FCV, Arlington, Metro). This is not fair to the parents /' players to even have this seed planted. Its not happening.

The only club with ties to ECNL is FCV who was initially a founding member. They MAY have some leverage but their efforts will be met by Loudoun who has been suffering from their proximity.

Remember the FCV - Loudoun partnership. The chickens have come home to roost.

If FCV doesn't get a bid, they are over as a club. They will have no player pool. The end.

As far as the "Y 'all better watch what your asking for. DA kids will take spot".

News flash: Most teams are not at capacity and have room to absorb without making cuts. If cuts are made, so be it.

No club will absorb a whole team so get in where you fit in.

1. ECNL is under no obligation to accommodate failed DA clubs. Their obligation is to their member clubs.

2. ECNL members understand that they will automatically pick up the DA pool of players WITHOUT excepting the DA clubs in.

3. NOVA is already saturated. An over saturation will kill the brand. Some of you greatly underestimate the people running ECNL. Maybe now you shouldn't.

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the perspective of ECNL. A short term perspective is that because tryouts are problematic, a delayed fall league start is possible, and rejecting FCV, ASA, and Metro clubs would be chaos, they will accept them all, or 2/3. They could then rely on a pro/rel arrangement to thin that out in subsequent years. In the near term, this would allow a more local content in each conference, lessening travel.

A longer term perspective is that 7 clubs in the metro area is too much for elite level competition. They could choose to take the short term pain, and reject all 3. This would cause the ex-DA teams to crumble and a real mess at tryout time. The existing 4 local ECNL clubs would prosper. This would also be the route they take if they want to punish DA clubs for past sins.

Why wouldn't ECNL take the path you mentioned at the end, which results in "the existing 4 local ECNL clubs would prosper."? Wouldn't that be in their best interest?

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Anonymous wrote:What should happen: Clubs with proven track record and high level players should be accepted into ECNL....if ECNL and leadership weren't vindictive. What will likely happen...maybe one more club in the area gets ECNL, maybe none do. Lots of chest pumping by ECNL clubs at the expense of kids playing the sport at the level they should be playing. Newsflash...lots of talented DA kids may decide to move to ECNL clubs, and the trickle down is that they displace kids who play there now. Who does that benefit? NO ONE!

2.5 years ago USSF ripped kids apart. Some kids lost a whole year and got pushed to the big field way to soon because of the age change. USSF threw everything into chaos by STEALING clubs from ECNL and rebranding them. Then poof...they're gone. And here we are again. The most unstable time in the history of soccer in this country. All created by our governing body.

You should thank you lucky star that ECNL exists. They existed before the DA to elevate the women's game in this country when our governing body wouldn't, and they now exist after the DA when the governing body once again failed.

NEVER FORGET THAT.

Brought a little tear to my eye! So patriotic!

Depends on the perspective of ECNL. A short term perspective is that because tryouts are problematic, a delayed fall league start is possible, and rejecting FCV, ASA, and Metro clubs would be chaos, they will accept them all, or 2/3. They could then rely on a pro/rel arrangement to thin that out in subsequent years. In the near term, this would allow a more local content in each conference, lessening travel.

A longer term perspective is that 7 clubs in the metro area is too much for elite level competition. They could choose to take the short term pain, and reject all 3. This would cause the ex-DA teams to crumble and a real mess at tryout time. The existing 4 local ECNL clubs would prosper. This would also be the route they take if they want to punish DA clubs for past sins.

Anonymous wrote:What should happen: Clubs with proven track record and high level players should be accepted into ECNL....if ECNL and leadership weren't vindictive. What will likely happen...maybe one more club in the area gets ECNL, maybe none do. Lots of chest pumping by ECNL clubs at the expense of kids playing the sport at the level they should be playing. Newsflash...lots of talented DA kids may decide to move to ECNL clubs, and the trickle down is that they displace kids who play there now. Who does that benefit? NO ONE!

Doesn't this truly benefit everyone (by removing the diluted teams) and create real "elite" teams from this area? Versus calling 7 NOVA teams "elite"?

Anonymous wrote:What should happen: Clubs with proven track record and high level players should be accepted into ECNL....if ECNL and leadership weren't vindictive. What will likely happen...maybe one more club in the area gets ECNL, maybe none do. Lots of chest pumping by ECNL clubs at the expense of kids playing the sport at the level they should be playing. Newsflash...lots of talented DA kids may decide to move to ECNL clubs, and the trickle down is that they displace kids who play there now. Who does that benefit? NO ONE!

2.5 years ago USSF ripped kids apart. Some kids lost a whole year and got pushed to the big field way to soon because of the age change. USSF threw everything into chaos by STEALING clubs from ECNL and rebranding them. Then poof...they're gone. And here we are again. The most unstable time in the history of soccer in this country. All created by our governing body.

You should thank you lucky star that ECNL exists. They existed before the DA to elevate the women's game in this country when our governing body wouldn't, and they now exist after the DA when the governing body once again failed.

NEVER FORGET THAT.

FCV, Arlington and Metro can join CCL or EDP and trust those platforms to provide the recruiting platform

I want to know if they will go back to age groupings by school year so a Sept 1 cutoff or back to Aug 1. I think a big push for calendar year was for the DA program

agree with above...localize the travel. best for everyone. wont go over well with mdu and bethesda who will yearn to go back to the days of stealing SAC players. turf war between loudoun and fcv...yikes.

if only it were simple and the players were placed first...

What should happen: Clubs with proven track record and high level players should be accepted into ECNL....if ECNL and leadership weren't vindictive. What will likely happen...maybe one more club in the area gets ECNL, maybe none do. Lots of chest pumping by ECNL clubs at the expense of kids playing the sport at the level they should be playing. Newsflash...lots of talented DA kids may decide to move to ECNL clubs, and the trickle down is that they displace kids who play there now. Who does that benefit? NO ONE!

Time will tell for all of this.

Reading a few posts online saying ECNL are close to capacity, I don’t see them letting in another Northern Virginia club.

Because the main thread is getting too confusing between boys and girls team, this is a thread to discuss future developments on the girls' side.