Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, in some ways they are. I remember an evangelical / fundamentalist christian telling me that we are here and once we use everything up and kill the planet, the rapture would come. And that's why he wasn't interested in recycling.

There are definitely wacko fundies out there who want the end of the world to come sooner rather than later, because they want to "raptured."

The rich republicans are using this narrative to gain as much control as possible and make as much money as possible.

I'm Christian, just not a gullible evangelical Christian.

+1
This is very much a belief in extremist Christian churches - that the rapture will come when the earth is destroyed, so that speeding earth’s destruction will get them to heaven sooner.

Frankly one wonders how they managed to miss that we’re supposed to be good stewards of God’s creation and that we are supposed to make earth as heavenly as possible by caring for one another but that’s just me with my pesky mainstream/progressive Lutheran upbringing.

That's me with my pesky Presbyterian upbringing too...be good stewards and help others, and God makes the choice who goes to heaven.

+ 3. All of God’s creation is something you care for

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, in some ways they are. I remember an evangelical / fundamentalist christian telling me that we are here and once we use everything up and kill the planet, the rapture would come. And that's why he wasn't interested in recycling.

There are definitely wacko fundies out there who want the end of the world to come sooner rather than later, because they want to "raptured."

The rich republicans are using this narrative to gain as much control as possible and make as much money as possible.

I'm Christian, just not a gullible evangelical Christian.

+1
This is very much a belief in extremist Christian churches - that the rapture will come when the earth is destroyed, so that speeding earth’s destruction will get them to heaven sooner.

Frankly one wonders how they managed to miss that we’re supposed to be good stewards of God’s creation and that we are supposed to make earth as heavenly as possible by caring for one another but that’s just me with my pesky mainstream/progressive Lutheran upbringing.

That's me with my pesky Presbyterian upbringing too...be good stewards and help others, and God makes the choice who goes to heaven.

Pro life=pro fetus and anti woman.
It's not really "pro life." Once a child is born, it's on it's own.

Comment on Falwell opening Liberty back up...

“It is easy to be confused by both of these developments and their seeming contradictions: Two very public figures treating the pandemic like it was under control as both the numbers and personal experiences show otherwise. The president of the United States and his favorite news channel actively working to turn the holiest of holidays into a secular, nationalist triumph. The president of a religious university, named after one of the most famously espoused principles of America’s founding, continually playing politics. But the truth is that these events, like so many others that seem irreconcilable based on our current understanding of politics, history, and American religion, fit into the same puzzle that was fused together from nationalism and capitalism decades earlier.

Those who have benefited from this fusion are now, in the face of a plague, rising in its defense. They won’t be afraid to sacrifice lives or push society off the ledge. They will support Trump’s policy of reopening the economy without fearing the warnings of doctors or scientists. They’ll watch while millions die from the pandemic, and they’ll chalk it up to God’s will. And they’ve been preparing for this moment for a long time.”
https://newrepublic.com/amp/article/157062/trump-f...irus?__twitter_impression=true

Anonymous wrote:Yes, in some ways they are. I remember an evangelical / fundamentalist christian telling me that we are here and once we use everything up and kill the planet, the rapture would come. And that's why he wasn't interested in recycling.

There are definitely wacko fundies out there who want the end of the world to come sooner rather than later, because they want to "raptured."

The rich republicans are using this narrative to gain as much control as possible and make as much money as possible.

I'm Christian, just not a gullible evangelical Christian.

+1
This is very much a belief in extremist Christian churches - that the rapture will come when the earth is destroyed, so that speeding earth’s destruction will get them to heaven sooner.

Frankly one wonders how they managed to miss that we’re supposed to be good stewards of God’s creation and that we are supposed to make earth as heavenly as possible by caring for one another but that’s just me with my pesky mainstream/progressive Lutheran upbringing.

Yes, in some ways they are. I remember an evangelical / fundamentalist christian telling me that we are here and once we use everything up and kill the planet, the rapture would come. And that's why he wasn't interested in recycling.

There are definitely wacko fundies out there who want the end of the world to come sooner rather than later, because they want to "raptured."

The rich republicans are using this narrative to gain as much control as possible and make as much money as possible.

I'm Christian, just not a gullible evangelical Christian.

Death cult? They now control the country through the Supreme Court and Electoral College.

Anonymous wrote:Get a grip. CV is going to be a permanent feature of human civilization just like Ebola and AIDS after they emerged. What, are you going to stop the economy and spend trillions of dollars every single time a wave of CV comes? Fauci just warned today about multiple waves of the virus. Deal with the fact that it exists, it'll kill people, and the vast majority will get over it after a slight fever and some coughing.

Emotional arguments will only hold for so long until economics takes over and people are staring at the threat of losing their homes and starving.

Oh brother. Stop hiding behing straw dogs. Read an economics textbook. Tell us where all the World War II debt went, when we paid millions of people to blow things up. Not even do nothing. Actually destroy stuff.

Get a grip. CV is going to be a permanent feature of human civilization just like Ebola and AIDS after they emerged. What, are you going to stop the economy and spend trillions of dollars every single time a wave of CV comes? Fauci just warned today about multiple waves of the virus. Deal with the fact that it exists, it'll kill people, and the vast majority will get over it after a slight fever and some coughing.

Emotional arguments will only hold for so long until economics takes over and people are staring at the threat of losing their homes and starving.

Anonymous wrote:Yeah dude, sorry but climate change is the least of our worries right now. People are dying.

Point is, scientists make projections based on the best available evidence and no matter what, there are people who "feel" differently. Then they make up alternative facts out of their own very good brains.

Yeah dude, sorry but climate change is the least of our worries right now. People are dying.

Anonymous wrote:Wonder if rush is out and about?

Does Rudy realize he’s one of the elderly his comrades want to dispatch?

I’m so glad he lives in NYC.

Wonder if rush is out and about?

No, they just don't believe it will happen to them. Like smokers who deny lyng cancer. Or believe in lung cancer but don't believe it will affect them.

Dying of respiratory failure to own the libs....

It just feels - I don't know. Like they bungled this response and are almost gleeful about it, while their leaders talk about sending old and other vulnerable people out to their deaths because one mustn't anger the stock market:

Their attitude toward climate change seems sort of similarly beyond nihilistic - nihilism would be like "well who cares" while they actually seem to actively pursue death.

Anyway, good times here in Trump's America!