Anonymous
Post 03/27/2020 22:07     Subject: Cayenne vs X5?!
Drive both and your will buy the Porsche.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2020 20:15     Subject: Cayenne vs X5?!
You are right that they have moved on, in that with one or two notable exceptions, the enthusiasts are no longer interested in a BMW. I owned not one but two E92s, both bought new. After 2010, there was not another BMW that interested me.

Why are you so defensive, you got one of these ugly new X5s? Try test driving a 2020 GLE.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2020 11:16     Subject: Cayenne vs X5?!
Anonymous wrote:If it was me the choice would be between a Porsche and a Mercedes. BMW is still designing it's vehicles like it's the late 2000s, which was the last time the company had any real sense of direction. People like to criticize Chris Bangle, but BMW was at peak design under his leadership. Other brands mimicked the design cues he put in place. The E92/93 were much better received than the crap that followed, and the M5 had a V10. No surprise then, that the BMW 3 series, once a perennial favorite of Car and Driver, fell off their list in 2015 and has not been back. The current X5, like the rest of the BMW line up, is a design of confusion. There is no guiding principle, no sense of purpose, just generic shape that would not look out of place with a Kia badge on it. The interior is a mishmash of different shapes, textures, tacked together with no continuity.



You realize that when they announced the E60 M5 people were freaking out about the V10 and how it's a bloated sports sedan, BMW has lost their way, blah blah blah? You're about 10-15 years behind the curve in complaining about BMW's "loss of direction". The rest of the car enthusiast community has moved on.

The fact of the matter is that their current bread and butter (3, 5, X3, X5, 7) are superior to the predecessors in literally every metric. Performance, safety, efficiency, practicality. The types of people who lament "what it was like" are typically the ones driving the 10yo car they bought used and can't afford anything newer anyway.

The current-gen X5 interior is gorgeous. I love the outside as well (but maybe that's because my sight is going as I don't abhor the Lexus grille like everyone else in this subforum).



Anonymous
Post 03/27/2020 09:19     Subject: Cayenne vs X5?!
If it was me the choice would be between a Porsche and a Mercedes. BMW is still designing it's vehicles like it's the late 2000s, which was the last time the company had any real sense of direction. People like to criticize Chris Bangle, but BMW was at peak design under his leadership. Other brands mimicked the design cues he put in place. The E92/93 were much better received than the crap that followed, and the M5 had a V10. No surprise then, that the BMW 3 series, once a perennial favorite of Car and Driver, fell off their list in 2015 and has not been back. The current X5, like the rest of the BMW line up, is a design of confusion. There is no guiding principle, no sense of purpose, just generic shape that would not look out of place with a Kia badge on it. The interior is a mishmash of different shapes, textures, tacked together with no continuity.

Anonymous
Post 03/26/2020 17:14     Subject: Cayenne vs X5?!
Anonymous wrote:Neither. Go with a Mercedes. BMW has turned to shit the past few years. Porsche makes sports cars so don;t buy their SUV. And Audis are shit.


Porsche and Audi are both VW's - if you are trying to get away from that, go with the X5 - if those are your choices.

I know a few people with x5s and they love them - best of both worlds.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2020 17:11     Subject: Re:Cayenne vs X5?!
Our Cayenne is great, and if we replace our second car we will probably get a Macan. Fun to drive, especially on long trips, and surprisingly reliable. Service is expensive but only 1x/year. Ours is 8 years old and no major repair issues. We've had 2 BMWs and both had expensive repair issues.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2020 15:59     Subject: Cayenne vs X5?!
So my husband has owned both (don't get me started), and he prefers the Cayenne over the X5. The Cayenne is what he drives currently.

Yes, Porsche maintenance costs are high, but so far he hasn't had any problems with the Cayenne, and he's found an independent mechanic (so far, only oil changes and other routine things).

What he really, really loved was the BMW M5, but he found it was just too low to the ground.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2020 15:33     Subject: Cayenne vs X5?!
All SUVs drive like crap when compared to a small sedan or coupe. Even the Macan Turbo handles noticeably worse than a basic sports sedan. Mercedes are just the worst. Audi or BMW are both better. The Porsche Cayenne is also the least reliable Porsche btw, last time I checked the rankings
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2020 15:33     Subject: Cayenne vs X5?!
Anonymous wrote:Neither. Go with a Mercedes. BMW has turned to shit the past few years. Porsche makes sports cars so don;t buy their SUV. And Audis are shit.


Got anything to back that statement up?
Porsche sells more SUV’s, combined, than they do cars. Everything I have read and heard points to excellence in manufacturing and reliability.
I’m sure they cost big money to repair but all of the German cars do as well. I have an X5 and I’m done with BMW. I would definitely consider a Porsche though.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2020 15:29     Subject: Cayenne vs X5?!
Anonymous wrote:Neither. Go with a Mercedes. BMW has turned to shit the past few years. Porsche makes sports cars so don;t buy their SUV. And Audis are shit.


If you enjoy driving buy a Porsche or BMW. The Cayenne and X5 are top of class.

If you want a status symbol buy a Mercedes. The GLE350 is soft, floaty, and painfully slow. Step up to the GLE450 and you'll still get walked by a base X5. MB knows their target demographic well as the front emblems are literally the size of a dinner plate and light up at night.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2020 15:13     Subject: Cayenne vs X5?!
Cayenne.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2020 15:12     Subject: Cayenne vs X5?!
Neither. Go with a Mercedes. BMW has turned to shit the past few years. Porsche makes sports cars so don;t buy their SUV. And Audis are shit.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2020 11:33     Subject: Cayenne vs X5?!
My longtime trusted independent repair shop (Audi/BMW/Porsche/M-B) recomends avoiding BMW, built like crap in recent years, but good for his bottom line.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2020 11:24     Subject: Re:Cayenne vs X5?!
I'm not sure what you mean by "embody luxury" but if you're coming out of a Q7 you're probably looking at the base models of these cars. The base X5 is a better buy than the base Cayenne.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2020 23:14     Subject: Cayenne vs X5?!
Getting tired of my Q7. Doesn’t embody luxury imho.