Anonymous
02/27/2020 14:26
Subject: Re:I don't understand Marc Elrich
Anonymous wrote:
Actually moving jobs to Frederick would be the best thing to do.
Put jobs where people live not more homes where jobs currently reside.
Even jobs are moving out of the city. Don't know a single person that works in the city anymore.
1. It's not in the power of MoCo to decide where jobs go. At most they can discourage jobs in MoCo (Elrich is good at that?) He can't determine if they go to Frederick, or to NoVa.
2. More jobs in Frederick likely means even more people driving to work, because there is almost no transit there that would be useabel to people commuting in to Frederick.
3. I doubt MoCo taxpayers will be thrilled with the consequences of losing commercial taxpayers.
By city you mean DC? Actually DC has a thriving office market.
Anonymous
02/27/2020 12:57
Subject: Re:I don't understand Marc Elrich
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He is a disaster.
The real question is why can any average white male win over competent people.
He’s not a Democrat he is a progressive socialist.
Don't "progressive socialists" want housing and transportation and jobs?
He did pass an affordable housing bill.
Are the new builds affordable? Environmentally sound?
1. You will never build enough AH just by building committed AH with govt funds. Market rate units mean more AH - because A. They can include IZ units B. They draw affluent folks from older buildings, reducing demand for older buildings. C. They will eventually age and become cheaper D. They pay taxes which help fund the govt AH
2. Building more units closer to jobs and to transit is the best thing localities can do for the climate.
It's not a NIMBY position to Frederick residents.
Actually moving jobs to Frederick would be the best thing to do.
Put jobs where people live not more homes where jobs currently reside.
Even jobs are moving out of the city. Don't know a single person that works in the city anymore.
That's what Marc Elrich said. Is it a NIMBY position? Yes. Literally.
Putting more housing WHERE THERE ALREADY IS HOUSING (and other infrastructure) is the best thing to do. More housing in DC. More housing in Arlington. And more housing in close-in Montgomery County.
Anonymous
02/27/2020 12:13
Subject: I don't understand Marc Elrich
We shouldn't be having a housing crisis related to hundreds and thousands of illegal immigrants sucking up affordable housing stock and driving up demand. Don't have illegal immigration in the first place and significantly reduce demand for affordable housing so our own citizens can find and afford it.
Anonymous
02/27/2020 11:55
Subject: Re:I don't understand Marc Elrich
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He is a disaster.
The real question is why can any average white male win over competent people.
He’s not a Democrat he is a progressive socialist.
Don't "progressive socialists" want housing and transportation and jobs?
He did pass an affordable housing bill.
Are the new builds affordable? Environmentally sound?
1. You will never build enough AH just by building committed AH with govt funds. Market rate units mean more AH - because A. They can include IZ units B. They draw affluent folks from older buildings, reducing demand for older buildings. C. They will eventually age and become cheaper D. They pay taxes which help fund the govt AH
2. Building more units closer to jobs and to transit is the best thing localities can do for the climate.
Actually moving jobs to Frederick would be the best thing to do.
Put jobs where people live not more homes where jobs currently reside.
Even jobs are moving out of the city. Don't know a single person that works in the city anymore.
That's what Marc Elrich said. Is it a NIMBY position? Yes. Literally.
Putting more housing WHERE THERE ALREADY IS HOUSING (and other infrastructure) is the best thing to do. More housing in DC. More housing in Arlington. And more housing in close-in Montgomery County.
Anonymous
02/27/2020 11:50
Subject: Re:I don't understand Marc Elrich
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He is a disaster.
The real question is why can any average white male win over competent people.
He’s not a Democrat he is a progressive socialist.
Don't "progressive socialists" want housing and transportation and jobs?
He did pass an affordable housing bill.
Are the new builds affordable? Environmentally sound?
1. You will never build enough AH just by building committed AH with govt funds. Market rate units mean more AH - because A. They can include IZ units B. They draw affluent folks from older buildings, reducing demand for older buildings. C. They will eventually age and become cheaper D. They pay taxes which help fund the govt AH
2. Building more units closer to jobs and to transit is the best thing localities can do for the climate.
Actually moving jobs to Frederick would be the best thing to do.
Put jobs where people live not more homes where jobs currently reside.
Even jobs are moving out of the city. Don't know a single person that works in the city anymore.
Anonymous
02/27/2020 11:47
Subject: Re:I don't understand Marc Elrich
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He is a disaster.
The real question is why can any average white male win over competent people.
He’s not a Democrat he is a progressive socialist.
Don't "progressive socialists" want housing and transportation and jobs?
He did pass an affordable housing bill.
Are the new builds affordable? Environmentally sound?
1. You will never build enough AH just by building committed AH with govt funds. Market rate units mean more AH - because A. They can include IZ units B. They draw affluent folks from older buildings, reducing demand for older buildings. C. They will eventually age and become cheaper D. They pay taxes which help fund the govt AH
2. Building more units closer to jobs and to transit is the best thing localities can do for the climate.
Anonymous
02/27/2020 11:32
Subject: Re:I don't understand Marc Elrich
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He is a disaster.
The real question is why can any average white male win over competent people.
He’s not a Democrat he is a progressive socialist.
Don't "progressive socialists" want housing and transportation and jobs?
He did pass an affordable housing bill.
Are the new builds affordable? Environmentally sound?
Anonymous
02/27/2020 11:29
Subject: Re:I don't understand Marc Elrich
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He is a disaster.
The real question is why can any average white male win over competent people.
He’s not a Democrat he is a progressive socialist.
Don't "progressive socialists" want housing and transportation and jobs?
The YIMBY vs NIMBY split is orthogonal to left right
The YIMBY side has everyone from socialists eager for more committed affordable housing, but realistic enough to see that goes alongside building other housing and that they need a broader alliance, all the way to libertarian leaning market urbanists, and plenty of people in between.
The NIMBY side is everyone from "My conservatism is about keeping the lesser breeds out, I don't give a f**k about markets" types, to hippie fauxgressives "dont build here, it will kill a tree to make a developer money"
Anonymous
02/27/2020 11:26
Subject: Re:I don't understand Marc Elrich
Anonymous wrote:Montgomery County - we welcome immigrants, as long as you don't house them in my neighborhood.
Well, I think it's more like: Montgomery County - we welcome change, as long as our neighborhoods, schools, and transportation habits can remain the same.
Anonymous
02/27/2020 11:06
Subject: Re:I don't understand Marc Elrich
Montgomery County - we welcome immigrants, as long as you don't house them in my neighborhood.
Anonymous
02/27/2020 10:57
Subject: I don't understand Marc Elrich
To understand Marc Elrich, you just have to look at what the neighborhood community associations want.
Do they want to welcome immigrants, fight climate change, and be green? (This is Montgomery County. Hate has no home here!) Yes! And he does, too.
Do they want more development in their neighborhoods? No. And he doesn't, either.
Do they want transit projects or more roads in their neighborhoods? No. And he doesn't, either.
Do they want to lose parking places in their neighborhoods due to accessory dwelling units? No. And he doesn't either.
Do they want rain gardens in their front yards? No. And he doesn't either.
Etc. etc. etc.
To the extent he's inconsistent - which I think he is, big-time - it's because he wants what the neighborhood community associations want, and THEY'RE inconsistent.
Do they want to welcome immigrants, fight climate change, and be green? (This is Montgomery County. Hate has no home here!) Yes! And he does, too.
Do they want more development in their neighborhoods? No. And he doesn't, either.
Do they want transit projects or more roads in their neighborhoods? No. And he doesn't, either.
Do they want to lose parking places in their neighborhoods due to accessory dwelling units? No. And he doesn't either.
Do they want rain gardens in their front yards? No. And he doesn't either.
Etc. etc. etc.
To the extent he's inconsistent - which I think he is, big-time - it's because he wants what the neighborhood community associations want, and THEY'RE inconsistent.
Anonymous
02/27/2020 08:46
Subject: Re:I don't understand Marc Elrich
Anonymous wrote:He is a disaster.
The real question is why can any average white male win over competent people.
He’s not a Democrat he is a progressive socialist.
Don't "progressive socialists" want housing and transportation and jobs?
Anonymous
02/27/2020 08:43
Subject: I don't understand Marc Elrich
Raise taxes.
Spend money.
Invite in hundreds and thousands of illegal immigrants.
Impose overly burdensome red tape for businesses.
Protect wealth liberal NiMBYS
It's the Democrat way.
Spend money.
Invite in hundreds and thousands of illegal immigrants.
Impose overly burdensome red tape for businesses.
Protect wealth liberal NiMBYS
It's the Democrat way.
Anonymous
02/27/2020 08:39
Subject: Re:I don't understand Marc Elrich
He is a disaster.
The real question is why can any average white male win over competent people.
He’s not a Democrat he is a progressive socialist.
The real question is why can any average white male win over competent people.
He’s not a Democrat he is a progressive socialist.
Anonymous
02/27/2020 08:29
Subject: I don't understand Marc Elrich
He's pro-sanctuary county but anti-housing.
So he's willing to welcome thousands of undocumented immigrants into Montgomery County, but doesn't want to build any more new homes? Where are they supposed to live?
For the record, I don't have a specific position on either issue. It just doesn't make sense, mathematically. If you want to stop or slow growth, then don't lay out the red carpet for immigrants, especially if they are going to need taxpayer money to get on their feet.
If you are pro-immigrant, then you need to have the resources to support them, and this includes housing and businesses.
You can either be in favor of welcoming lots of new residents while increasing the tax base and building more homes and infrastructure to support them, or you can slow things down with moratoria and such. Pick one. You can't have both. You can't advertise your county as being favorable to new immigrants if you're not willing to support them.
So he's willing to welcome thousands of undocumented immigrants into Montgomery County, but doesn't want to build any more new homes? Where are they supposed to live?
For the record, I don't have a specific position on either issue. It just doesn't make sense, mathematically. If you want to stop or slow growth, then don't lay out the red carpet for immigrants, especially if they are going to need taxpayer money to get on their feet.
If you are pro-immigrant, then you need to have the resources to support them, and this includes housing and businesses.
You can either be in favor of welcoming lots of new residents while increasing the tax base and building more homes and infrastructure to support them, or you can slow things down with moratoria and such. Pick one. You can't have both. You can't advertise your county as being favorable to new immigrants if you're not willing to support them.