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Anonymous wrote:So when I look at colleges, they list test scores and grades for the 25th-50th percentiles. That means another quarter of students are above the 75th percentile. What do students have in the bottom quarter? Do they tend to be URMs, recruited athletes, legacies?

All of the above and full pays.

Not at need-blind schools, which includes all of the Ivies, many top publics (including UVA), and many top SLACs.

Or something special musically, or admission into specific program (theater) or award winner in something that would be impressive.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, the bottom 25th percentile is more likely to be URM's and athletes, but that's not always the case.

International students.

Anonymous wrote:You have no way of knowing what kinds of students are in the lower 25 - and does it really matter? Why?

They were admitted. Period.

Why are you getting defensive? Respond if you know the answer. If not, don't.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, the bottom 25th percentile is more likely to be URM's and athletes, but that's not always the case.

Also low income, first generation, national award winners, TJ students (scoring lower in their class vis-a-vis the top of the class), schools that don't weight GPA, some internationals, some other diversity candidates, the occasional instrumentalist the band needs. And some legacies.

Yes, the bottom 25th percentile is more likely to be URM's and athletes, but that's not always the case.

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Anonymous wrote:My UMC no-hook white kid from NOVA got into UVA with below their 25th percentile on the SAT.

Not a shock— if their grades were good. uVA puts a lot more emphasis on GPA than SAT. WM puts more on SAT.

Graduated with a 4.01 GPA from an Arlington public high school. Lots of Bs but mainly in AP courses. Did not take Calculus. So-so extracurriculars, none involving leadership. Non athlete. Not a legacy.

Anonymous wrote:My UMC no-hook white kid from NOVA got into UVA with below their 25th percentile on the SAT.

Not a shock— if their grades were good. uVA puts a lot more emphasis on GPA than SAT. WM puts more on SAT.

My UMC no-hook white kid from NOVA got into UVA with below their 25th percentile on the SAT.

Anonymous wrote:From nearly all-white rural school where only 25% went to college. 1300 SAT. Finished in top 25% at MIT.

For all of the flak that the SAT adversity score received, this is what they were trying to account for.

Thanks for sharing PP!

From nearly all-white rural school where only 25% went to college. 1300 SAT. Finished in top 25% at MIT.

For all of the flak that the SAT adversity score received, this is what they were trying to account for.

Anonymous wrote:You have no way of knowing what kinds of students are in the lower 25 - and does it really matter? Why?

They were admitted. Period.

Just curious which is why I asked. Someone on DCUMs has a kid in the bottom 25%. What do you think helped out their case?

You have no way of knowing what kinds of students are in the lower 25 - and does it really matter? Why?

They were admitted. Period.

Anonymous wrote:So when I look at colleges, they list test scores and grades for the 25th-50th percentiles. That means another quarter of students are above the 75th percentile. What do students have in the bottom quarter? Do they tend to be URMs, recruited athletes, legacies?

All of the above and full pays.

So when I look at colleges, they list test scores and grades for the 25th-50th percentiles. That means another quarter of students are above the 75th percentile. What do students have in the bottom quarter? Do they tend to be URMs, recruited athletes, legacies?