Anonymous wrote:There is a chance, there are people who report that their kid was accepted with score in the high teens, but it will require amazing GBRSs and work samples. The cut off for in-pool is 132 for a reason.

+1 The process is holistic, and they really will look at the entire packet. The test scores point toward not getting in, but there is a chance if the rest of the packet is strong.

There is a chance, there are people who report that their kid was accepted with score in the high teens, but it will require amazing GBRSs and work samples. The cut off for in-pool is 132 for a reason.

My DC is in a similar situation. WISC is in the late 80s, but NNAT is above 120. CoGAT is somewhere near the 118. Any chance?

knrknr2019 wrote:and how about a WISC with eighty eight Percentile or one hundred and eighteen raw score? DC has mathematical strength versus verbal, which shows in the test results.

Sorry, that isn’t a high enough score for Level 4. It sounds like your child is exactly in the right place. She is in advanced math and in gen ed.

knrknr2019 wrote:and how about a WISC with eighty eight Percentile or one hundred and eighteen raw score? DC has mathematical strength versus verbal, which shows in the test results.

Is 118 the FSIQ, or is it the highest subscore? Generally, a 118 WISC is too low, but they don't have a cutoff, so you can parent refer next year if you want to. What were to NNAT an CogAT scores?

and how about a WISC with eighty eight Percentile or one hundred and eighteen raw score? DC has mathematical strength versus verbal, which shows in the test results.

OP, you don't have to go through level 3 to get to level 4. If you are interested in your child being considered for level 4, where all core classes are advanced, you can parent refer each January starting in 2nd grade. Generally, the benchmark for automatically being considered for level 4 is a 132 on the NNAT or the CogAT, but you can parent refer with lower scores. Talk to the AART at the school if you need more information. I'd say, if your DC's CogAT and NNAT scores are all above 120, you should parent refer, but you can parent refer with any scores. The parent referral deadline has passed for this year.

The only thing you need to do to get into Level IV is apply and be accepted. You don't need to pass through LIII on the way. Being in advanced math is good, because it shows that your kid can handle AAP math. Not being LIII is somewhat bad, only in the sense that the school doesn't seem to think your kid needs services and it might indicate a low-ish GBRS.

If you're talking about principal placement into an AAP class, they can use whatever placement metrics they deem appropriate. A lot of schools rely more on the beginning of year tests than they do on cogat scores.

Anonymous wrote:No, a singular class is not Level 4. Level 4 refers to a program service designation. It means that the student is receiving all core content using an advanced academic curriculum by a certified advanced academic teacher. A math class is not “Level 4.”

The part about the certified advanced academic teacher is inaccurate. Teacher can teach AAP without the certification. They have years to get the certification and can teach while getting it. Quite a few of my kids' teachers weren't certified. Some elementary schools allow level 2 or 3 kids to take math with the level IV kids, but that doesn't change their designation. The Level IV designation is based on test scores (or test scores and parent referral) and GBRS. My DC's middle school doesn't have a separate level IV math class, they place all kids on the advanced math track in the same class.

No, a singular class is not Level 4. Level 4 refers to a program service designation. It means that the student is receiving all core content using an advanced academic curriculum by a certified advanced academic teacher. A math class is not “Level 4.”

No.

Does a child need to be in Level 3 to go to Level 4. My DC is in Level 2 but takes adv math, so that's a level 4.