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Anonymous wrote:Just because you once saw an unmannered dog off leash doesn't mean that all dogs off leash are unmannered, PP. I do think it was unacceptable for the dog to run into the man.

I have one dog that is trustworthy off leash and one that isn't, she's still a puppy. They are both allowed to run off leash on my farm, though. If you come on my property, that's your choice so I see nothing wrong with that. I will crate them if someone comes over with a fear of dogs.

NP. Unleashed dogs are not all ill mannered, but all owners who let their dogs off leash where it’s prohibited by law are breaking the law,

Many laws called “leash laws” merely require the dog to be under control (including voice.)

My dog is frightened of and aggressive toward most other dogs, and we have reason to believe that she was abused--and possibly involved in dog fighting--before we adopted her. We steer clear of places where we might run into other dogs, and cross the street with ample room to spare to avoid other dog walkers.

When your mild-mannered dog runs up to my leashed one, a fight may ensue. My emotionally unstable dog is probably the jerk who "started it," but then she's on a leash and yours is the one who ran up to us, all the while you're yelling to me not to worry because your dog is friendly. Unless you're a dog behaviorist, you probably can't anticipate how your otherwise calm dog will behave once it encounters mine.

I understand that my dog is the outlier, and know that the onus is on us to avoid pet stores, parks, even the kinds of trails that OP describes. But I have to walk her somewhere, and have had dogs run up to us on suburban sidewalks. It happens rarely, but it does happen.

Anonymous wrote:Just because you once saw an unmannered dog off leash doesn't mean that all dogs off leash are unmannered, PP. I do think it was unacceptable for the dog to run into the man.

I have one dog that is trustworthy off leash and one that isn't, she's still a puppy. They are both allowed to run off leash on my farm, though. If you come on my property, that's your choice so I see nothing wrong with that. I will crate them if someone comes over with a fear of dogs.

NP. Unleashed dogs are not all ill mannered, but all owners who let their dogs off leash where it’s prohibited by law are breaking the law,

Just because you once saw an unmannered dog off leash doesn't mean that all dogs off leash are unmannered, PP. I do think it was unacceptable for the dog to run into the man.

I have one dog that is trustworthy off leash and one that isn't, she's still a puppy. They are both allowed to run off leash on my farm, though. If you come on my property, that's your choice so I see nothing wrong with that. I will crate them if someone comes over with a fear of dogs.

It is against the law. They know it.

If you do anything, it will be to phone animal control.

Anonymous wrote:YOu have 2 questions. Why don't you leash your dog and why do you think its ok for your dog to attack others.

To answer the first, I let my dogs run in wooded areas because they need the exercise and its good for them, I rarely see people and when I do my dogs ignore them. My dogs also come back to me when I call them.
I would assume most of the dogs you see also go back to their owner when called. I dog that is " out of control" is not a dog most owners would let off the leash. Just because it is loose does not mean it is out of control.

To answer the 2nd part, I cant really because my dogs dont attack people, Again though, I douby most dogs off leash are attacking people, they wouldnt be allowed off leash if they did.
Assuming you mean attack as in the dog has an intent to injure you or cause bodily harm..........most dogs are not out to attack random humans.

In the case of the man we saw running, the dog did physically touch the man. Unacceptable.

If you were walking and a man walked up to your child and started rubbing his hands all over your child, would that be ok? No? Then why can a dog do it to a human?

YOu have 2 questions. Why don't you leash your dog and why do you think its ok for your dog to attack others.

To answer the first, I let my dogs run in wooded areas because they need the exercise and its good for them, I rarely see people and when I do my dogs ignore them. My dogs also come back to me when I call them.
I would assume most of the dogs you see also go back to their owner when called. I dog that is " out of control" is not a dog most owners would let off the leash. Just because it is loose does not mean it is out of control.

To answer the 2nd part, I cant really because my dogs dont attack people, Again though, I douby most dogs off leash are attacking people, they wouldnt be allowed off leash if they did.
Assuming you mean attack as in the dog has an intent to injure you or cause bodily harm..........most dogs are not out to attack random humans.

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Anonymous wrote:I see this a lot but usually the people clip a leash on their dog before I reach them. I have zero problem with that, because it's understandable that they want their doggies to shake out their legs. I can only assume the ones who won't take control of their dogs fall under the same personality profile as the cyclists who refuse to be considerate.

This. Many dogs LOVE to be off-leash on trails. My dog gets great exercise and stimulation trotting around off-leash, sniffing wherever he feels like. My husband has my dog under voice control on trails, such that my dog will actually stop if he senses someone ahead.

I do not go off leash with my dog, because I do not have him under voice control, and he is more protective with me. So, with me he's always leashed.

Lol. Until that day comes when -- for any one of a thousand reasons -- your dog doesn't listen to your husband and bites someone or causes an injury...

It does not serve anybody well to imagine things that will never happen. If you have an anxiety that makes you think of every worse possible outcome all the time you should read Eckart Tolle.... the power of now.

Why do people go over the speed limit.
Why do people write things off on taxes they shouldn't.
Why do people drink under age
Why do people turn right on red when there is clearly a sign that says, don't turn right on red.
Why do people not understand zipper merge
Why do people smoke pot when it is illegal
Why did people help slaves get away from their master

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see this a lot but usually the people clip a leash on their dog before I reach them. I have zero problem with that, because it's understandable that they want their doggies to shake out their legs. I can only assume the ones who won't take control of their dogs fall under the same personality profile as the cyclists who refuse to be considerate.

This. Many dogs LOVE to be off-leash on trails. My dog gets great exercise and stimulation trotting around off-leash, sniffing wherever he feels like. My husband has my dog under voice control on trails, such that my dog will actually stop if he senses someone ahead.

I do not go off leash with my dog, because I do not have him under voice control, and he is more protective with me. So, with me he's always leashed.

Lol. Until that day comes when -- for any one of a thousand reasons -- your dog doesn't listen to your husband and bites someone or causes an injury...

Not this again. Do you know how to use the search function?

Anonymous wrote:I see this a lot but usually the people clip a leash on their dog before I reach them. I have zero problem with that, because it's understandable that they want their doggies to shake out their legs. I can only assume the ones who won't take control of their dogs fall under the same personality profile as the cyclists who refuse to be considerate.

This. Many dogs LOVE to be off-leash on trails. My dog gets great exercise and stimulation trotting around off-leash, sniffing wherever he feels like. My husband has my dog under voice control on trails, such that my dog will actually stop if he senses someone ahead.

I do not go off leash with my dog, because I do not have him under voice control, and he is more protective with me. So, with me he's always leashed.

I see this a lot but usually the people clip a leash on their dog before I reach them. I have zero problem with that, because it's understandable that they want their doggies to shake out their legs. I can only assume the ones who won't take control of their dogs fall under the same personality profile as the cyclists who refuse to be considerate.

Ah, the age old question.

The only answer here is because people are self centered assholes.

I have a friend that I have a weekly "running date" with. We live in the same neighborhood, which is a large suburban HOA with paved trails through wooded areas. These are well used trails--I run and walk on them several times a week (sometimes with my friend and sometimes on my own) and I always see other people on them.

Frequently when we are running, we'll encounter people walking their dog without a leash. The dog is just running around out of control. Last week we even saw a dog run right into another man who was running a bit further up the trail.

If you do this, why? It's the law to leash your dog. Why do you think its ok for other people to be attacked by your dog while they are out for a run or walk?