Anonymous
Post 12/22/2019 12:34     Subject: Re:High nnat.....now what?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They only put together a packet for kids under consideration.

No one has a clue what the committee is looking for but there are kids who get in with lower scores and stellar GBRS. There are kids who get in with great scores and awful GBRS.

Seriously, there is no reason to be worrying.

I want my kid to have the option to choose AAP or not but he will be fine academically if he is not accepted. He is in pool and we are going to include some from home work samples and the parent questionnaire. His test scores are solid, 135 NNAT and 135 Cogat composite. His teachers were very positive in his parent teacher conference. We’ll see what happens.

You have a year, take a breath and watch the process this year. There will be meetings at your school next year to walk you through everything.


I am not worrying. just want to understand the process. because clearly I had no idea and I dont want to mess things up for him by missing something (i am happy to hear they will have meetings).


You have a year to figure it out. Google AAP Application and you can see the forms that are used. The actual selection process is a bit of a mystery. Selection is based on a variety of factors and the emphasis seems to be different for each committee member.

In a few months you will see the posts from people wondering why their kid wasn’t accepted with 150 CogAT while a kid with a 115 was. And then people will bemoan low GBRS from teachers who hate their kid. Others will discuss how tests mean nothing and that kid with the 115 is amazing and deserves to be in. And you will learn all about the WISC.

Anonymous
Post 12/22/2019 12:33     Subject: High nnat.....now what?
FCPS has a website that explains the AAP process. Google is your friend.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2019 12:26     Subject: Re:High nnat.....now what?
Anonymous wrote:They only put together a packet for kids under consideration.

No one has a clue what the committee is looking for but there are kids who get in with lower scores and stellar GBRS. There are kids who get in with great scores and awful GBRS.

Seriously, there is no reason to be worrying.

I want my kid to have the option to choose AAP or not but he will be fine academically if he is not accepted. He is in pool and we are going to include some from home work samples and the parent questionnaire. His test scores are solid, 135 NNAT and 135 Cogat composite. His teachers were very positive in his parent teacher conference. We’ll see what happens.

You have a year, take a breath and watch the process this year. There will be meetings at your school next year to walk you through everything.


I am not worrying. just want to understand the process. because clearly I had no idea and I dont want to mess things up for him by missing something (i am happy to hear they will have meetings).
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2019 12:18     Subject: Re:High nnat.....now what?
They only put together a packet for kids under consideration.

No one has a clue what the committee is looking for but there are kids who get in with lower scores and stellar GBRS. There are kids who get in with great scores and awful GBRS.

Seriously, there is no reason to be worrying.

I want my kid to have the option to choose AAP or not but he will be fine academically if he is not accepted. He is in pool and we are going to include some from home work samples and the parent questionnaire. His test scores are solid, 135 NNAT and 135 Cogat composite. His teachers were very positive in his parent teacher conference. We’ll see what happens.

You have a year, take a breath and watch the process this year. There will be meetings at your school next year to walk you through everything.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2019 12:06     Subject: Re:High nnat.....now what?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I found this forum last year after getting NNAT scores home and googling them to figure out what they were and why we should care.

Enjoy first grade. Enjoy your child. Don’t over think things. You kid will take to CogAT next year. You will have to decide if you want to include the parental questionnaire and the like next year. You child will be fine no matter what program they are.

For now sit back and watch those of us with second graders lose our shit over the silly process. Vow not tobe us next year and see what happens.


Theres a parent form? So they want a NNAT, COGAT, GBRS, and a parent form?

and wth is this WISC reference I am seeing around here??


There is a parent referal form for kids not in pool.

There is a voluntary parent questionnaire.

Parents can submit their own work samples.

The school does the GBRS and work samples for all in pool and referred kids.

The WISC is a separate exam that you can have your child sit with a psychiatrist. It costs around $500. Many people use it for appeals. Some people have it done for other reasons and might use it with a referral in the first wave of applications.


Oh. Thanks.

So the school doesnt do a GBRS for each kid, only kids who have scored high enough on either or both tests to be considered "in pool" or who have been referred and from there ...some panel makes the call as to which kids can go to AAP?

Do I have that right? If yes, if my kid does ok on CogAT but the GBRS is just ok (again he has ADHD) will the NNAT score likely mean the panel or whoever still places him into AAP? or is that just one of those behind the curtain type deals that no one ever really can tell
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2019 12:01     Subject: Re:High nnat.....now what?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I found this forum last year after getting NNAT scores home and googling them to figure out what they were and why we should care.

Enjoy first grade. Enjoy your child. Don’t over think things. You kid will take to CogAT next year. You will have to decide if you want to include the parental questionnaire and the like next year. You child will be fine no matter what program they are.

For now sit back and watch those of us with second graders lose our shit over the silly process. Vow not tobe us next year and see what happens.


Theres a parent form? So they want a NNAT, COGAT, GBRS, and a parent form?

and wth is this WISC reference I am seeing around here??


There is a parent referal form for kids not in pool.

There is a voluntary parent questionnaire.

Parents can submit their own work samples.

The school does the GBRS and work samples for all in pool and referred kids.

The WISC is a separate exam that you can have your child sit with a psychiatrist. It costs around $500. Many people use it for appeals. Some people have it done for other reasons and might use it with a referral in the first wave of applications.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2019 11:51     Subject: Re:High nnat.....now what?
Anonymous wrote:I found this forum last year after getting NNAT scores home and googling them to figure out what they were and why we should care.

Enjoy first grade. Enjoy your child. Don’t over think things. You kid will take to CogAT next year. You will have to decide if you want to include the parental questionnaire and the like next year. You child will be fine no matter what program they are.

For now sit back and watch those of us with second graders lose our shit over the silly process. Vow not tobe us next year and see what happens.


Theres a parent form? So they want a NNAT, COGAT, GBRS, and a parent form?

and wth is this WISC reference I am seeing around here??
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2019 11:49     Subject: High nnat.....now what?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's first grade. Put it away for now. Your DC will be in pool next year.


Thank you but this didnt answer my question. Does he still have to take cogat? is a referral still required?

You say he will be in pool but is that you assuming he will test well enough on cogat if he takes it? I am trying to understand the process. Does one score this high automatically qualify a child? or are other pieces still necessary?


He will take the Cogat in second grade. One score is enough to be in pool next year and with that NNAT score, he will be in pool, regardless of how he does in the Cogat.


Thank you. I found this forum trying to figure out what the score meant in terms of process. Turns out I am a crap parent apparently because everyone seems to know this but me. I dont even know what GBRS is -a term I just saw in reading other posts here. I am gathering its something a teacher fills out. Which makes me a little nervous. My son has ADHD hyperactive type so in class behavior has been a challenging experience at times.


There are plenty of ADHD kids in AAP. Don't worry about it.

You're not clueless, you're normal. This forum is mostly for crazy parents.


hah thank you. It is good to hear there are other ADHD kids in AAP. I believe I actually have it myself and I did ok in school (honors etc) but i grew up kind of right before ADHD dx sort of took off. I felt super bad about our struggle in kindergarten and was like "am I putting too much pressure on him, I dont want to be one of those insane parents around here that medicate their kids for performance" which as i understand it, happens not infrequently in NOVA. But even my husband wound up filling out the form indicating he had it and my husband is way more chill than me.

It was the right call ultimately. My son can actually finish a thought now and has a lot more self confidence. And hes still my son. I was afraid he would turn into a zombie. Nope.

I just want him to be happy.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2019 11:40     Subject: Re:High nnat.....now what?
I found this forum last year after getting NNAT scores home and googling them to figure out what they were and why we should care.

Enjoy first grade. Enjoy your child. Don’t over think things. You kid will take to CogAT next year. You will have to decide if you want to include the parental questionnaire and the like next year. You child will be fine no matter what program they are.

For now sit back and watch those of us with second graders lose our shit over the silly process. Vow not tobe us next year and see what happens.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2019 11:34     Subject: High nnat.....now what?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's first grade. Put it away for now. Your DC will be in pool next year.


Thank you but this didnt answer my question. Does he still have to take cogat? is a referral still required?

You say he will be in pool but is that you assuming he will test well enough on cogat if he takes it? I am trying to understand the process. Does one score this high automatically qualify a child? or are other pieces still necessary?


He will take the Cogat in second grade. One score is enough to be in pool next year and with that NNAT score, he will be in pool, regardless of how he does in the Cogat.


Thank you. I found this forum trying to figure out what the score meant in terms of process. Turns out I am a crap parent apparently because everyone seems to know this but me. I dont even know what GBRS is -a term I just saw in reading other posts here. I am gathering its something a teacher fills out. Which makes me a little nervous. My son has ADHD hyperactive type so in class behavior has been a challenging experience at times.


There are plenty of ADHD kids in AAP. Don't worry about it.

You're not clueless, you're normal. This forum is mostly for crazy parents.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2019 11:31     Subject: High nnat.....now what?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's first grade. Put it away for now. Your DC will be in pool next year.


Thank you but this didnt answer my question. Does he still have to take cogat? is a referral still required?

You say he will be in pool but is that you assuming he will test well enough on cogat if he takes it? I am trying to understand the process. Does one score this high automatically qualify a child? or are other pieces still necessary?


He will take the Cogat in second grade. One score is enough to be in pool next year and with that NNAT score, he will be in pool, regardless of how he does in the Cogat.


Thank you. I found this forum trying to figure out what the score meant in terms of process. Turns out I am a crap parent apparently because everyone seems to know this but me. I dont even know what GBRS is -a term I just saw in reading other posts here. I am gathering its something a teacher fills out. Which makes me a little nervous. My son has ADHD hyperactive type so in class behavior has been a challenging experience at times.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2019 11:17     Subject: High nnat.....now what?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's first grade. Put it away for now. Your DC will be in pool next year.


Thank you but this didnt answer my question. Does he still have to take cogat? is a referral still required?

You say he will be in pool but is that you assuming he will test well enough on cogat if he takes it? I am trying to understand the process. Does one score this high automatically qualify a child? or are other pieces still necessary?


He will take the Cogat in second grade. One score is enough to be in pool next year and with that NNAT score, he will be in pool, regardless of how he does in the Cogat.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2019 11:12     Subject: High nnat.....now what?
Anonymous wrote:It's first grade. Put it away for now. Your DC will be in pool next year.


Thank you but this didnt answer my question. Does he still have to take cogat? is a referral still required?

You say he will be in pool but is that you assuming he will test well enough on cogat if he takes it? I am trying to understand the process. Does one score this high automatically qualify a child? or are other pieces still necessary?
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2019 11:08     Subject: High nnat.....now what?
It's first grade. Put it away for now. Your DC will be in pool next year.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2019 11:02     Subject: High nnat.....now what?
My first grade son received his results today. 154. Does this score mean he is automatically in the pool? Does he need a referral still? Does he take the CogAT in second grade?

Not humble bragging. I genuinely dont know. Should I have received something other than the test score?