Anonymous wrote:No reason to have a super F
PP, an F is an F is an F
50% is an F
50%, however, allows for the *slight* hope, that if they try, they can might raise it to a D

You sound like our new wave of administrators. An F is an F they say, which is why they want us to give 50% if students do not turn in anything. The problem is that passing is considered 60%. That’s not much higher than a 50. When you do the math on some of these classes you realize students didn’t turn in most assignments and earned 50, then did ok but not great on a couple of assessments or projects after retakes and were able to recover the credit with an overall grade of 60%. They get moved to the next course with very little understanding of the content. We see this all of the time in secondary math classes and are told to remediate, when in reality students have learned they can pass with doing almost nothing. It’s difficult when they don’t try and don’t have the skills they need to be successful in the next class.

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Anonymous wrote:If it is my school, the principals continually try to make the teachers find tests did them to retake to “recover credit” and pressure/mandate all zeros be changed to exempt or 50s. If it’s too low for them to justify a D they enroll them in a summer class online or they take it online concurrently the next year. Sometimes they retake the class.

The 50% is countywide.

Not in FCPS. I teach in a FCPS high school and we do not do this.

It actually is. We just discussed this with our principal last week. Unless he was making that up.

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And I’m actually wrong.

https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-assignments-and-assessments

That said, it is strongly encouraged for our students at my school. Like a PP said, a 0 can dig a hole that is very hard for a student to climb out of.

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Anonymous wrote:If it is my school, the principals continually try to make the teachers find tests did them to retake to “recover credit” and pressure/mandate all zeros be changed to exempt or 50s. If it’s too low for them to justify a D they enroll them in a summer class online or they take it online concurrently the next year. Sometimes they retake the class.

The 50% is countywide.

Not in FCPS. I teach in a FCPS high school and we do not do this.

It actually is. We just discussed this with our principal last week. Unless he was making that up.

Anonymous wrote:Wait. So 50% on assignments the students did not even attempt? That's preposterous.

I'm a professor, and deal with students from time to time who totally bomb of their own volition. Others work very hard and struggle, sometimes messing up then turning in assignments really late but they tried. THOSE students get 50% quite often, which can do something to raise their grade to a D or C-. But the ones who didn't show up/try/submit also get 50%? NO WAY.

you're a few years behind the times. Your opinion does not matter. The policy is already set.

No reason to have a super F
PP, an F is an F is an F
50% is an F
50%, however, allows for the *slight* hope, that if they try, they can might raise it to a D

Wait. So 50% on assignments the students did not even attempt? That's preposterous.

I'm a professor, and deal with students from time to time who totally bomb of their own volition. Others work very hard and struggle, sometimes messing up then turning in assignments really late but they tried. THOSE students get 50% quite often, which can do something to raise their grade to a D or C-. But the ones who didn't show up/try/submit also get 50%? NO WAY.

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Anonymous wrote:If it is my school, the principals continually try to make the teachers find tests did them to retake to “recover credit” and pressure/mandate all zeros be changed to exempt or 50s. If it’s too low for them to justify a D they enroll them in a summer class online or they take it online concurrently the next year. Sometimes they retake the class.

The 50% is countywide.

Not in FCPS. I teach in a FCPS high school and we do not do this.

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Anonymous wrote:If it is my school, the principals continually try to make the teachers find tests did them to retake to “recover credit” and pressure/mandate all zeros be changed to exempt or 50s. If it’s too low for them to justify a D they enroll them in a summer class online or they take it online concurrently the next year. Sometimes they retake the class.

The 50% is countywide.

Sorry - I missed that in the title. I’m not in FCPS. So I guess my info was not relevant.

I've got an 11th grader who's done summer school 2 summers in a row. IME, the school isn't good about telling parents about options. I got a form letter but if I hadn't researched it ahead of time, I wouldn't have understood how it works and, importantly, that I didn't have to pay for the classes (one summer was SOL remediation, the other was because he failed a class). You should know that kids can only re-take 1 class over the summer.

The 'worst' thing that can happen is that your kid won't graduate from HS with a standard diploma. Students need certain types of class credits as well as pass certain SOLs. If your kid failed a required class, they won't graduate until that class is passed.

Anonymous wrote:If it is my school, the principals continually try to make the teachers find tests did them to retake to “recover credit” and pressure/mandate all zeros be changed to exempt or 50s. If it’s too low for them to justify a D they enroll them in a summer class online or they take it online concurrently the next year. Sometimes they retake the class.

The 50% is countywide.

If it is my school, the principals continually try to make the teachers find tests did them to retake to “recover credit” and pressure/mandate all zeros be changed to exempt or 50s. If it’s too low for them to justify a D they enroll them in a summer class online or they take it online concurrently the next year. Sometimes they retake the class.

FCPS teacher here.

A D is passing.

If it is a core class, they can retake in summer school. Depending on the class, they make have to retake it, or potentially could take something else. For example, in Science you need 3 credits to graduate and 1 SOL. If you failed Biology, you don’t have to retake it, but you need to take another science class with an SOL to get that verified credit.

I believe the rule is you have to pass 4 classes to move up a grade, but I’m not sure.

Of course we will try it get every student to pass. But there are limits to what we can do if the child has no interest in trying themselves. Attendance also can come into play also.

Summer school or having to take the class again next year in place of an elective

They offer “credit recovery” programs over the summer.

If a student is failing a class, what is the worst that can happen in regard to their school?

And what exactly is "failing"? Does anything better than an "F" for the end of the course count as "passing"?

If a kid is "failing" -- do they end up going to summer school? Have to re-take that class next year (if it is a core class)?

Could a kid fail multiple core classes and have to repeat that whole year?

I assume the school wants to push the kids through in 4 yrs whatever it takes. But, what will they do to make that happen if a kid isn't very interested in helping him/herself?