Anonymous
11/20/2019 10:32
Subject: Familiarity with a disruptive kid in the classroom (FCPS) - what to do?
Burke is one of the reasons FCPS is currently being sued for egregious violations of overusing seclusion and restraint, plus it does not have a gifted program. If you want the child to be further traumatized, push for Burke.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There isn’t one.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It has come to our attention that my child's classroom has a gifted child with social issues. He will attack other kids, throw desks and disrupt the classroom. Apparently this has been doing on since the beginning of the year but we just learned of it. We have asked our kid to tell us when these incidents happen and what they are. It happens as infrequently as once a week and as frequently as three times a week. When an incident happens they clear everyone else from the classroom and they sit in the hallway until the kid can be calmed down. No one can touch the kid and a counselor and principal are brought in.
I started talking to some friends in other FCPS and apparently this is more of the norm than what I would believe or even thought. I know I am coming off as insensitive and I am not the parent of this kid with issues -- but 25 other kids are suffering in their education. How is this fair for the teacher to have these kinds of disruptions on such a regular basis. And, what is my recourse if this kid hurts my kid since apparently he almost hit another kid with a chair (but missed) in one of these outbursts. He has pulled a kids hair and shoved another.
This is a result of activism. The disruptive kid can not be removed from the classroom. That is considered "exclusion." Teachers can only use positive methods of discipline.
Sometimes, these kids have serious disabilities that lead to this behavior, but must be mainstreamed. He's probably labeled "twice-exceptional."
I taught years ago. There have always been kids who behaved like this--although, there appear to be more now. There is also a difference in a "discipline" problem and a kid with special needs. Some kids are just troublemakers because they are spoiled or neglected. Others cannot seem to help it and the parents, too, are likely desperate.
But, these parents have no understanding of what this disruption does to others. It's the death of common sense. Kids like that need to be placed elsewhere if this happens regularly.
The child is in Fairfax. What is this "elsewhere" placement appropriate for an elementary-age gifted child with these behaviors?
Not true. Burke School comes to mind as well as some other schools (WTW) can cater to these type of students. C'mon this is FCPS. They've got something for everyone.
Anonymous
11/20/2019 10:30
Subject: Familiarity with a disruptive kid in the classroom (FCPS) - what to do?
not to the gifted partAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There isn’t one.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It has come to our attention that my child's classroom has a gifted child with social issues. He will attack other kids, throw desks and disrupt the classroom. Apparently this has been doing on since the beginning of the year but we just learned of it. We have asked our kid to tell us when these incidents happen and what they are. It happens as infrequently as once a week and as frequently as three times a week. When an incident happens they clear everyone else from the classroom and they sit in the hallway until the kid can be calmed down. No one can touch the kid and a counselor and principal are brought in.
I started talking to some friends in other FCPS and apparently this is more of the norm than what I would believe or even thought. I know I am coming off as insensitive and I am not the parent of this kid with issues -- but 25 other kids are suffering in their education. How is this fair for the teacher to have these kinds of disruptions on such a regular basis. And, what is my recourse if this kid hurts my kid since apparently he almost hit another kid with a chair (but missed) in one of these outbursts. He has pulled a kids hair and shoved another.
This is a result of activism. The disruptive kid can not be removed from the classroom. That is considered "exclusion." Teachers can only use positive methods of discipline.
Sometimes, these kids have serious disabilities that lead to this behavior, but must be mainstreamed. He's probably labeled "twice-exceptional."
I taught years ago. There have always been kids who behaved like this--although, there appear to be more now. There is also a difference in a "discipline" problem and a kid with special needs. Some kids are just troublemakers because they are spoiled or neglected. Others cannot seem to help it and the parents, too, are likely desperate.
But, these parents have no understanding of what this disruption does to others. It's the death of common sense. Kids like that need to be placed elsewhere if this happens regularly.
The child is in Fairfax. What is this "elsewhere" placement appropriate for an elementary-age gifted child with these behaviors?
Not true. Burke School comes to mind as well as some other schools (WTW) can cater to these type of students. C'mon this is FCPS. They've got something for everyone.
Anonymous
11/20/2019 10:27
Subject: Re:Familiarity with a disruptive kid in the classroom (FCPS) - what to do?
Anonymous wrote:And this is why so many switch to private. I would in a heartbeat if money was no object. You don’t have these types of kids in privates.
Yes you do.
Anonymous
11/20/2019 10:23
Subject: Re:Familiarity with a disruptive kid in the classroom (FCPS) - what to do?
And this is why so many switch to private. I would in a heartbeat if money was no object. You don’t have these types of kids in privates.
Anonymous
11/20/2019 10:02
Subject: Familiarity with a disruptive kid in the classroom (FCPS) - what to do?
Anonymous wrote:There isn’t one.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It has come to our attention that my child's classroom has a gifted child with social issues. He will attack other kids, throw desks and disrupt the classroom. Apparently this has been doing on since the beginning of the year but we just learned of it. We have asked our kid to tell us when these incidents happen and what they are. It happens as infrequently as once a week and as frequently as three times a week. When an incident happens they clear everyone else from the classroom and they sit in the hallway until the kid can be calmed down. No one can touch the kid and a counselor and principal are brought in.
I started talking to some friends in other FCPS and apparently this is more of the norm than what I would believe or even thought. I know I am coming off as insensitive and I am not the parent of this kid with issues -- but 25 other kids are suffering in their education. How is this fair for the teacher to have these kinds of disruptions on such a regular basis. And, what is my recourse if this kid hurts my kid since apparently he almost hit another kid with a chair (but missed) in one of these outbursts. He has pulled a kids hair and shoved another.
This is a result of activism. The disruptive kid can not be removed from the classroom. That is considered "exclusion." Teachers can only use positive methods of discipline.
Sometimes, these kids have serious disabilities that lead to this behavior, but must be mainstreamed. He's probably labeled "twice-exceptional."
I taught years ago. There have always been kids who behaved like this--although, there appear to be more now. There is also a difference in a "discipline" problem and a kid with special needs. Some kids are just troublemakers because they are spoiled or neglected. Others cannot seem to help it and the parents, too, are likely desperate.
But, these parents have no understanding of what this disruption does to others. It's the death of common sense. Kids like that need to be placed elsewhere if this happens regularly.
The child is in Fairfax. What is this "elsewhere" placement appropriate for an elementary-age gifted child with these behaviors?
Not true. Burke School comes to mind as well as some other schools (WTW) can cater to these type of students. C'mon this is FCPS. They've got something for everyone.
Anonymous
11/20/2019 10:01
Subject: Familiarity with a disruptive kid in the classroom (FCPS) - what to do?
Suggest your child bring a book to school so she can read it in the hallway during the waiting times. Voila, time is no longer being wasted.
Anonymous
11/20/2019 10:00
Subject: Familiarity with a disruptive kid in the classroom (FCPS) - what to do?
Anonymous wrote:There isn’t one.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It has come to our attention that my child's classroom has a gifted child with social issues. He will attack other kids, throw desks and disrupt the classroom. Apparently this has been doing on since the beginning of the year but we just learned of it. We have asked our kid to tell us when these incidents happen and what they are. It happens as infrequently as once a week and as frequently as three times a week. When an incident happens they clear everyone else from the classroom and they sit in the hallway until the kid can be calmed down. No one can touch the kid and a counselor and principal are brought in.
I started talking to some friends in other FCPS and apparently this is more of the norm than what I would believe or even thought. I know I am coming off as insensitive and I am not the parent of this kid with issues -- but 25 other kids are suffering in their education. How is this fair for the teacher to have these kinds of disruptions on such a regular basis. And, what is my recourse if this kid hurts my kid since apparently he almost hit another kid with a chair (but missed) in one of these outbursts. He has pulled a kids hair and shoved another.
This is a result of activism. The disruptive kid can not be removed from the classroom. That is considered "exclusion." Teachers can only use positive methods of discipline.
Sometimes, these kids have serious disabilities that lead to this behavior, but must be mainstreamed. He's probably labeled "twice-exceptional."
I taught years ago. There have always been kids who behaved like this--although, there appear to be more now. There is also a difference in a "discipline" problem and a kid with special needs. Some kids are just troublemakers because they are spoiled or neglected. Others cannot seem to help it and the parents, too, are likely desperate.
But, these parents have no understanding of what this disruption does to others. It's the death of common sense. Kids like that need to be placed elsewhere if this happens regularly.
The child is in Fairfax. What is this "elsewhere" placement appropriate for an elementary-age gifted child with these behaviors?
PP "taught years ago" and confidently stated that the child should be placed elsewhere. If pp is that knowledgeable, she needs to share her information as it might be helpful to other families.
Anonymous
11/20/2019 10:00
Subject: Familiarity with a disruptive kid in the classroom (FCPS) - what to do?
I'm sure there is some sort of IEP in place (or at least in progress).
There should be an IA in the classroom or another type of aide to assist with the class or this individual.
There should be an IA in the classroom or another type of aide to assist with the class or this individual.
Anonymous
11/20/2019 10:00
Subject: Familiarity with a disruptive kid in the classroom (FCPS) - what to do?
What do you want to do, OP? Do you want to complaint to the teacher/principal every time an incident happens or do you just want to complain?
You've asked your DC to tell you every time something happens in the classroom. You are making this more important and exciting or disturbing to your child rather than less important. Is that your goal?
You've asked your DC to tell you every time something happens in the classroom. You are making this more important and exciting or disturbing to your child rather than less important. Is that your goal?
Anonymous
11/20/2019 09:59
Subject: Familiarity with a disruptive kid in the classroom (FCPS) - what to do?
1-3 times a week is really not that frequent-how long are they sitting in the hall?
If the child has been at the school for several years, then everyone has just accepted the situation.
If the child is new to the school, they may be working on a behavioral plan or a move to a different school--those things take a really long time.
If the child has been at the school for several years, then everyone has just accepted the situation.
If the child is new to the school, they may be working on a behavioral plan or a move to a different school--those things take a really long time.
Anonymous
11/20/2019 09:58
Subject: Re:Familiarity with a disruptive kid in the classroom (FCPS) - what to do?
This happened to us last year. We had 2 kids like that in my kid’s class. It was a nightmare. Request your child be separated from this kid next year. That’s about all you can do.
Anonymous
11/20/2019 09:58
Subject: Familiarity with a disruptive kid in the classroom (FCPS) - what to do?
There isn’t one.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It has come to our attention that my child's classroom has a gifted child with social issues. He will attack other kids, throw desks and disrupt the classroom. Apparently this has been doing on since the beginning of the year but we just learned of it. We have asked our kid to tell us when these incidents happen and what they are. It happens as infrequently as once a week and as frequently as three times a week. When an incident happens they clear everyone else from the classroom and they sit in the hallway until the kid can be calmed down. No one can touch the kid and a counselor and principal are brought in.
I started talking to some friends in other FCPS and apparently this is more of the norm than what I would believe or even thought. I know I am coming off as insensitive and I am not the parent of this kid with issues -- but 25 other kids are suffering in their education. How is this fair for the teacher to have these kinds of disruptions on such a regular basis. And, what is my recourse if this kid hurts my kid since apparently he almost hit another kid with a chair (but missed) in one of these outbursts. He has pulled a kids hair and shoved another.
This is a result of activism. The disruptive kid can not be removed from the classroom. That is considered "exclusion." Teachers can only use positive methods of discipline.
Sometimes, these kids have serious disabilities that lead to this behavior, but must be mainstreamed. He's probably labeled "twice-exceptional."
I taught years ago. There have always been kids who behaved like this--although, there appear to be more now. There is also a difference in a "discipline" problem and a kid with special needs. Some kids are just troublemakers because they are spoiled or neglected. Others cannot seem to help it and the parents, too, are likely desperate.
But, these parents have no understanding of what this disruption does to others. It's the death of common sense. Kids like that need to be placed elsewhere if this happens regularly.
The child is in Fairfax. What is this "elsewhere" placement appropriate for an elementary-age gifted child with these behaviors?
Anonymous
11/20/2019 09:56
Subject: Familiarity with a disruptive kid in the classroom (FCPS) - what to do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It has come to our attention that my child's classroom has a gifted child with social issues. He will attack other kids, throw desks and disrupt the classroom. Apparently this has been doing on since the beginning of the year but we just learned of it. We have asked our kid to tell us when these incidents happen and what they are. It happens as infrequently as once a week and as frequently as three times a week. When an incident happens they clear everyone else from the classroom and they sit in the hallway until the kid can be calmed down. No one can touch the kid and a counselor and principal are brought in.
I started talking to some friends in other FCPS and apparently this is more of the norm than what I would believe or even thought. I know I am coming off as insensitive and I am not the parent of this kid with issues -- but 25 other kids are suffering in their education. How is this fair for the teacher to have these kinds of disruptions on such a regular basis. And, what is my recourse if this kid hurts my kid since apparently he almost hit another kid with a chair (but missed) in one of these outbursts. He has pulled a kids hair and shoved another.
This is a result of activism. The disruptive kid can not be removed from the classroom. That is considered "exclusion." Teachers can only use positive methods of discipline.
Sometimes, these kids have serious disabilities that lead to this behavior, but must be mainstreamed. He's probably labeled "twice-exceptional."
I taught years ago. There have always been kids who behaved like this--although, there appear to be more now. There is also a difference in a "discipline" problem and a kid with special needs. Some kids are just troublemakers because they are spoiled or neglected. Others cannot seem to help it and the parents, too, are likely desperate.
But, these parents have no understanding of what this disruption does to others. It's the death of common sense. Kids like that need to be placed elsewhere if this happens regularly.
The child is in Fairfax. What is this "elsewhere" placement appropriate for an elementary-age gifted child with these behaviors?
Anonymous
11/20/2019 09:49
Subject: Familiarity with a disruptive kid in the classroom (FCPS) - what to do?
Anonymous wrote:
It has come to our attention that my child's classroom has a gifted child with social issues. He will attack other kids, throw desks and disrupt the classroom. Apparently this has been doing on since the beginning of the year but we just learned of it. We have asked our kid to tell us when these incidents happen and what they are. It happens as infrequently as once a week and as frequently as three times a week. When an incident happens they clear everyone else from the classroom and they sit in the hallway until the kid can be calmed down. No one can touch the kid and a counselor and principal are brought in.
I started talking to some friends in other FCPS and apparently this is more of the norm than what I would believe or even thought. I know I am coming off as insensitive and I am not the parent of this kid with issues -- but 25 other kids are suffering in their education. How is this fair for the teacher to have these kinds of disruptions on such a regular basis. And, what is my recourse if this kid hurts my kid since apparently he almost hit another kid with a chair (but missed) in one of these outbursts. He has pulled a kids hair and shoved another.
This is a result of activism. The disruptive kid can not be removed from the classroom. That is considered "exclusion." Teachers can only use positive methods of discipline.
Sometimes, these kids have serious disabilities that lead to this behavior, but must be mainstreamed. He's probably labeled "twice-exceptional."
I taught years ago. There have always been kids who behaved like this--although, there appear to be more now. There is also a difference in a "discipline" problem and a kid with special needs. Some kids are just troublemakers because they are spoiled or neglected. Others cannot seem to help it and the parents, too, are likely desperate.
But, these parents have no understanding of what this disruption does to others. It's the death of common sense. Kids like that need to be placed elsewhere if this happens regularly.
Anonymous
11/20/2019 09:38
Subject: Familiarity with a disruptive kid in the classroom (FCPS) - what to do?
It has come to our attention that my child's classroom has a gifted child with social issues. He will attack other kids, throw desks and disrupt the classroom. Apparently this has been doing on since the beginning of the year but we just learned of it. We have asked our kid to tell us when these incidents happen and what they are. It happens as infrequently as once a week and as frequently as three times a week. When an incident happens they clear everyone else from the classroom and they sit in the hallway until the kid can be calmed down. No one can touch the kid and a counselor and principal are brought in.
I started talking to some friends in other FCPS and apparently this is more of the norm than what I would believe or even thought. I know I am coming off as insensitive and I am not the parent of this kid with issues -- but 25 other kids are suffering in their education. How is this fair for the teacher to have these kinds of disruptions on such a regular basis. And, what is my recourse if this kid hurts my kid since apparently he almost hit another kid with a chair (but missed) in one of these outbursts. He has pulled a kids hair and shoved another.