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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the overall score is the FSIQ and its percentile rank. A 135 FSIQ is about the threshold for 99th percentile. But, since everyone on this site seems to say their child scored 99+, maybe they are claiming the FSIQ score rather than the percentile and their child is perfectly normal!

Well, a high IQ is normal in this area. DS scored 99+ with FSIQ of 157 on WISC V, which is actually more predictive of real IQ (WPPSI is not). We know several other kids in his class who likely have FSIQs in DS’s range.

As a parent of two "Big 3" students, I'm certain that there aren't that many prodigies wandering around upper Wisconsin Avenue. Lots of very bright students taking calculus in 10th grade or doing independent study on Foucault and Derrida, but no Doogie Howsers. In fact, I suspect the Big 3 would tell Sheldon's parents that they don't/can't serve his or her needs.

This area has a lot of high achieving parents who tend to produce high achieving kids. I agree that bright high achieving kids are getting there working hard and are not Doogie Howser’s. I too thought a high IQ was normal in this area because everyone seemed to report 99% and up scores. One of my kids scored 99.9% and completed most of the subtests without getting anything wrong. The others 99.8 and hit the ceiling on 1 or 2 subtests. The Psychologists administering the tests made it clear that was not the norm in this area. Schools don’t always want a kid like this. It’s more work for them to meet the kid where they are. We’ve had mixed results with different teachers. The best teachers meet kids where they are—all kids. The math whiz, the gifted writer, the musical prodigy, the philosopher, etc. In my experience those teachers are not always found at what some folks on this board like to call the “Big Three.” Studies show that grit, perseverance, work habits really matter. The kids I know that do really well at the big three have those skills down. They are willing to put in a lot of time on homework. Many “work” long hours to do well at school. They are bright kids who put in a lot of hours.

As someone who married into a high IQ, zero common sense / ADD inattentive family, I feel for you all.

And to the extent that any DC Doogie Howser or DC Sheldon got admitted to a top college, DCUM would immediately dismiss their accomplishment as reliant on legacy status or some other hook.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, the overall score is the FSIQ and its percentile rank. A 135 FSIQ is about the threshold for 99th percentile. But, since everyone on this site seems to say their child scored 99+, maybe they are claiming the FSIQ score rather than the percentile and their child is perfectly normal!

Well, a high IQ is normal in this area. DS scored 99+ with FSIQ of 157 on WISC V, which is actually more predictive of real IQ (WPPSI is not). We know several other kids in his class who likely have FSIQs in DS’s range.

As a parent of two "Big 3" students, I'm certain that there aren't that many prodigies wandering around upper Wisconsin Avenue. Lots of very bright students taking calculus in 10th grade or doing independent study on Foucault and Derrida, but no Doogie Howsers. In fact, I suspect the Big 3 would tell Sheldon's parents that they don't/can't serve his or her needs.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, the overall score is the FSIQ and its percentile rank. A 135 FSIQ is about the threshold for 99th percentile. But, since everyone on this site seems to say their child scored 99+, maybe they are claiming the FSIQ score rather than the percentile and their child is perfectly normal!

Well, a high IQ is normal in this area. DS scored 99+ with FSIQ of 157 on WISC V, which is actually more predictive of real IQ (WPPSI is not). We know several other kids in his class who likely have FSIQs in DS’s range.

Yes, the overall score is the FSIQ and its percentile rank. A 135 FSIQ is about the threshold for 99th percentile. But, since everyone on this site seems to say their child scored 99+, maybe they are claiming the FSIQ score rather than the percentile and their child is perfectly normal!

Anonymous wrote:My kid totally bombed this test such that two schools wouldn’t touch her with such a low score. Fast forward to HS and our kid has done very well (with no diagnosis and no intervention) such that she goes to a pretty elite school academically. Headed to one of the small Ivy’s for college. In a nutshell, this test was, in no way, a predictor of future academic success. Both schools that rejected her were desperate to have her for High School, and neither got her. In my view, this test is pointless, needless and I hope schools stop requiring it for admission.

They are testing to get a sense of your child’s learning profile to help gauge whether they can accommodate it. The test is an imperfect tool granted, but...

Anonymous wrote:When people are reporting "XX" percentile from the WPSII, are they referring to the full scale IQ number? Is that the number that schools really care about?

Well since percentile means out of a 100 so your kid could be 96th percentile but the full scale IQ number might be 125. So if you are hearing double digits likely its the percentile and if triple digit numbers, likely the IQ. I think most kids in this area applying to elite privates will have a triple digit number for their IQ.

My kid totally bombed this test such that two schools wouldn’t touch her with such a low score. Fast forward to HS and our kid has done very well (with no diagnosis and no intervention) such that she goes to a pretty elite school academically. Headed to one of the small Ivy’s for college. In a nutshell, this test was, in no way, a predictor of future academic success. Both schools that rejected her were desperate to have her for High School, and neither got her. In my view, this test is pointless, needless and I hope schools stop requiring it for admission.

Anonymous wrote:When people are reporting "XX" percentile from the WPSII, are they referring to the full scale IQ number? Is that the number that schools really care about?

I would guess yes, since the other scores go into making up that number and they are often similar to one another. But if your child has a split (say very strong verbal skills but less strong nonverbal skills) I would pay more attention to the verbal IQ score than the full scale.

I do think it refers to IQ but it's a scan

ok, whatever you may think, fine. But you aren't answering the question. What is the "number" reported??

Just an expensive weeding out tool.

There is no number that schools "really care about" -- WPPSI scores almost never matter in determining whether your child gets in or not.

When people are reporting "XX" percentile from the WPSII, are they referring to the full scale IQ number? Is that the number that schools really care about?