If your DS or DD is capable of playing in the regionals and the team they play on can reach the regionals, you need to get out of NCSL. Staying in NCSL will not offer the path to stronger competition that you need to compete in regionals. There is a reason why the teams in regionals came mostly out of EDP and a few out of CCL. When both my DS and DD played in NCSL their respective teams looked for more competition once they hit u13. By U14 the top teams from NCSL were gone. This was 3-5 years ago.

Anonymous wrote:Last year McLean 2007 went to state cup and won it and they were in NCSL.

Last year, the 07 state cup was won by SYC against Alexandria. McLean may have made semis and if so that was their current ECNL team that may have been playing in NCSL only b/c they are not CCL I. (Not CCL guy).

What State Cup does this reference? Is it the the USYS State Cup or NPL? On the girls side, there are not many elite teams left if any in NCSL. That is why most elite teams leave after u13? The competition is not there. If you look at any of the top brackets at any of the elite tournaments, including Bethesda, WAGS, Discovery, Jefferson, OBGC, etc, you will not find any NCSL teams and only a few CCL teams at u14 or higher. I can understand creating a pathway for CCL but not NCSL. Talk about diluting the field.

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Anonymous wrote:It says that the winner of the Super Group (which is really just the spring D1 teams U13 and up) get to play the winners of the CCL, LIJSL, and the NSL. Then the winner of those four teams gets a spot at Regionals. It also says that if the winning teams is already eligible for Regionals by winning States, then the second place team also becomes eligible for Regionals.

This.

The winner of NCSL Div 1 gets a chance in a playoff fashion to play winners of other leagues to get a bid into Regionals. Super group appears to be a fancy way of saying all teams in Div 1 in the Spring 2020 season.

I don't think the Super Group is just the Spring D1 teams. It looks like it is the top 3 D1 teams, the 1st place D2 team, and 6 at large teams. I agree that the winner of this Super Group advances to play the winners of the CCL, LIJSL, and NSL leagues in what they are calling the League Championship Playoffs. Also, a slight correction is...it doesn't say that, if the winner of the League Championship Playoffs is already eligible for Regionals, then the 2nd place team will go. It says that, if the winner of the NCSL Super Group is already eligible to go to Regionals by winning State Cup, then the 2nd place team in the Super Group will go on to represent NCSL in the League Championship Playoffs. The winner of the four team League Championship Playoffs then gets a spot in Regionals. What I don't understand is how the winner of the Super Group is determined or how the at-large teams are selected. If there are 10 teams in the Super Group, do they just play a 9 game schedule like a normal spring season that replaces their regular spring season (or are these games in addition to theoir regular spring season schedule)?

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why this is necessary? If you want to make Regionals, enter State Cup and win it (or come in 2nd). Why the need for a backdoor for another team? Did someone feel like something wasn't fair for NCSL teams? If they needed another team, why not send the 3rd place team from State Cup? Anyone in the know on this?

+1

Can someone explain why this is necessary? If you want to make Regionals, enter State Cup and win it (or come in 2nd). Why the need for a backdoor for another team? Did someone feel like something wasn't fair for NCSL teams? If they needed another team, why not send the 3rd place team from State Cup? Anyone in the know on this?

Arlington Red’s played in the National Championship final the past 2 years and they used to play in NCSL.

Last year McLean 2007 went to state cup and won it and they were in NCSL.

Anonymous wrote:It says that the winner of the Super Group (which is really just the spring D1 teams U13 and up) get to play the winners of the CCL, LIJSL, and the NSL. Then the winner of those four teams gets a spot at Regionals. It also says that if the winning teams is already eligible for Regionals by winning States, then the second place team also becomes eligible for Regionals.

This.

The winner of NCSL Div 1 gets a chance in a playoff fashion to play winners of other leagues to get a bid into Regionals. Super group appears to be a fancy way of saying all teams in Div 1 in the Spring 2020 season.

Anonymous wrote:No way that NCSL team get bud to Regionals. If they allow that then Regionals will get diluted. In MD, I don't believe a single team from NCSL made it to state cup. NCSL is not in the same league as team going to state cup let alone regionals.

OK, but I don't think we are debating whether an NCSL team will make it to Regionals in this thread. We are trying to figure out how this Super Group works.

No way that NCSL team get bud to Regionals. If they allow that then Regionals will get diluted. In MD, I don't believe a single team from NCSL made it to state cup. NCSL is not in the same league as team going to state cup let alone regionals.

I see it as the Super Group will be a 10 team group that consists of the top 3 finishers from NCSL D1 and the winner of D2 plus 6 "at large" teams from other leagues (No idea how these teams are selected though). I'm not sure about the other leagues, but this Super Group seems to replace NCSL league play for the four NCSL teams. In order to be selected into the Super Group you must still be entered into the state cup tournament so I guess this Super Group league will be in addition to the State Cup games. Any agreement? Disagreement?

It says that the winner of the Super Group (which is really just the spring D1 teams U13 and up) get to play the winners of the CCL, LIJSL, and the NSL. Then the winner of those four teams gets a spot at Regionals. It also says that if the winning teams is already eligible for Regionals by winning States, then the second place team also becomes eligible for Regionals.

I don't understand it a bit but there is this...


https://ncsl.demosphere-secure.com/ncsl-selected-as-inaugural-usys-league-championship-member

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mnrnFk3psfhFyyboo29Moyqo_4X4Oh221tcCjlX-aU4/edit

If you figure it out, please explain in very easy to understand language. : )

What I think it is...is this the winner of this Super Group gets an entry to the Regional Championships. Normally, only 1st and 2nd place state cup teams got entries to the Regional Championships but now the Super Group gets an entry????? And the Super Group is composed of 1st and 2nd place teams from NCSL D1 and 1st place of D2 and a few "at-large" teams from other leagues like EDP. What I don't understand is....why is this necessary. Just register for state cup and play. In order to be part of the Super Group you must be registered for State Cup. So do you play if both tournaments? I don't know.

Our coach mentioned that our team may be eligible for something called "SuperGroup" in the NCSL league. Does anyone have any information? I did a google search and it's mentioned like 2 times on the NCSL website and there is no actual information that I can find. Is it something new?