Anonymous
Post 11/02/2019 10:52     Subject: Re:Discussion: What actually matters to you about your club and coaches?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I want a coach who :
- is competent in all tactical and strategic aspects of soccer and can communicate (teach) these
- is smart enough to balance player development and team competitiveness appropriate to the age group
- is excellent at interpersonal communication with kids
- is good at interpersonal communication with parents
- has excellent integrity, means what he says, says what he means
- develops and communicates criteria for roster and playing time decisions and enforces it uniformly
- is approachable, open, honest, and respectful with regard to parent communications




As a parent of still youngish players, all of these things, and especially the bolded one.


We have a coach that loves to make snide comments about players to those other players around him. For example: Why is she too stupid to not go get the ball? If she weren't 10 lbs over weight she would have beat her defender. Too personal, too petty, not soccer related. Kids will always share what they hear. It honestly disgusts me that people tolerate this


Holy crap! That’s terrible!
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2019 22:46     Subject: Re:Discussion: What actually matters to you about your club and coaches?

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to put in a plug here for *efficiency.*

What I mean in general is a relatively high proportion of the overall time spent on soccer (including practice and game travel) to the time spent with a ball at your feet, with a higher premium on game time. So driving to Connecticut (4 or 5 hours each way) for 11 minutes of game time is atrociously inefficient. Driving to Connecticut for just about anything is inefficient. The longer I've been at this travel soccer thing, the more I'm convinced that it's not the actual time spent at practice and games that burns out the kids--it's 20 minutes of playing time in a "home" game taking up 4.5 hours (an hour each way to the game, hour warmup, 1.5 hr game). Burns out the parents, too.

Also, it's dumb. DCU academy has to go to NYCFC academy to find a team that can beat them? Dumb

ECNL teams have to go to the Carolinas to play games? Dumb (but not as inefficient as going to NYC and back for just one game)

Yeah, I value a club that values the time of their parents and players. Efficiency.


+100

It’s gotten so damn out of hand—traveling to states far away for regular games.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2019 22:35     Subject: Re:Discussion: What actually matters to you about your club and coaches?

Now that my DD is U16? Playing time on a team with good showcasing opportunities for college recruiting. And that she keeps enjoying the game.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2019 21:34     Subject: Re:Discussion: What actually matters to you about your club and coaches?

I'm going to put in a plug here for *efficiency.*

What I mean in general is a relatively high proportion of the overall time spent on soccer (including practice and game travel) to the time spent with a ball at your feet, with a higher premium on game time. So driving to Connecticut (4 or 5 hours each way) for 11 minutes of game time is atrociously inefficient. Driving to Connecticut for just about anything is inefficient. The longer I've been at this travel soccer thing, the more I'm convinced that it's not the actual time spent at practice and games that burns out the kids--it's 20 minutes of playing time in a "home" game taking up 4.5 hours (an hour each way to the game, hour warmup, 1.5 hr game). Burns out the parents, too.

Also, it's dumb. DCU academy has to go to NYCFC academy to find a team that can beat them? Dumb

ECNL teams have to go to the Carolinas to play games? Dumb (but not as inefficient as going to NYC and back for just one game)

Yeah, I value a club that values the time of their parents and players. Efficiency.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2019 13:34     Subject: Re:Discussion: What actually matters to you about your club and coaches?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I want a coach who :
- is competent in all tactical and strategic aspects of soccer and can communicate (teach) these
- is smart enough to balance player development and team competitiveness appropriate to the age group
- is excellent at interpersonal communication with kids
- is good at interpersonal communication with parents
- has excellent integrity, means what he says, says what he means
- develops and communicates criteria for roster and playing time decisions and enforces it uniformly
- is approachable, open, honest, and respectful with regard to parent communications




As a parent of still youngish players, all of these things, and especially the bolded one.


We have a coach that loves to make snide comments about players to those other players around him. For example: Why is she too stupid to not go get the ball? If she weren't 10 lbs over weight she would have beat her defender. Too personal, too petty, not soccer related. Kids will always share what they hear. It honestly disgusts me that people tolerate this


Lemme guess...McLean?
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2019 10:01     Subject: Discussion: What actually matters to you about your club and coaches?

I think I took for granted the importance of playing time because my oldest child plays every game, all game. My middle child is not as strong of a player and definitely doesn't get the same amount of playing time. We are going to move her next year to a team where she gets more time. That is the most important to me at the younger ages. It makes no sense for her to be sitting on the bench when there are teams that she could be on the field for.
As for coaches, I agree with everything people have said, but have yet to find that coach. I agree communication is huge and is certainly lacking at our club. This would be one of the reasons we will leave.
We have had some competitive games this season in NCSL since they seem to try to match up teams at the younger ages. There are always those random blowouts, but those are becoming fewer. I do wish they would try to match up teams geographically since there are so many teams we could play in Fairfax County alone. Makes no sense for us to go to MD or DC at the younger ages.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2019 10:01     Subject: Re:Discussion: What actually matters to you about your club and coaches?

Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I want a coach who :
- is competent in all tactical and strategic aspects of soccer and can communicate (teach) these
- is smart enough to balance player development and team competitiveness appropriate to the age group
- is excellent at interpersonal communication with kids
- is good at interpersonal communication with parents
- has excellent integrity, means what he says, says what he means
- develops and communicates criteria for roster and playing time decisions and enforces it uniformly
- is approachable, open, honest, and respectful with regard to parent communications




and a different list for clubs:
- secures appropriate and safe resources for training and games
- defines common training environment appropriate for age groups
- hires and manages coaches who exhibit the qualities listed
- develops and enforces a standard of conduct for coaches, parents, and players
- charges coaches with the responsibility for enforcing the code of conduct uniformly
- charges coaches with the responsibility to communicate effectively with parents
- conducts regular evaluations of coaches including bottoms up reviews
- has an open door policy with regard to issues
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2019 09:39     Subject: Re:Discussion: What actually matters to you about your club and coaches?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I want a coach who :
- is competent in all tactical and strategic aspects of soccer and can communicate (teach) these
- is smart enough to balance player development and team competitiveness appropriate to the age group
- is excellent at interpersonal communication with kids
- is good at interpersonal communication with parents
- has excellent integrity, means what he says, says what he means
- develops and communicates criteria for roster and playing time decisions and enforces it uniformly
- is approachable, open, honest, and respectful with regard to parent communications




As a parent of still youngish players, all of these things, and especially the bolded one.


We have a coach that loves to make snide comments about players to those other players around him. For example: Why is she too stupid to not go get the ball? If she weren't 10 lbs over weight she would have beat her defender. Too personal, too petty, not soccer related. Kids will always share what they hear. It honestly disgusts me that people tolerate this


How do you let your kids still play on that team!!!!
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2019 09:36     Subject: Re:Discussion: What actually matters to you about your club and coaches?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I want a coach who :
- is competent in all tactical and strategic aspects of soccer and can communicate (teach) these
- is smart enough to balance player development and team competitiveness appropriate to the age group
- is excellent at interpersonal communication with kids
- is good at interpersonal communication with parents
- has excellent integrity, means what he says, says what he means
- develops and communicates criteria for roster and playing time decisions and enforces it uniformly
- is approachable, open, honest, and respectful with regard to parent communications




As a parent of still youngish players, all of these things, and especially the bolded one.


We have a coach that loves to make snide comments about players to those other players around him. For example: Why is she too stupid to not go get the ball? If she weren't 10 lbs over weight she would have beat her defender. Too personal, too petty, not soccer related. Kids will always share what they hear. It honestly disgusts me that people tolerate this
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2019 09:34     Subject: Re:Discussion: What actually matters to you about your club and coaches?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I want a coach who :
- is competent in all tactical and strategic aspects of soccer and can communicate (teach) these
- is smart enough to balance player development and team competitiveness appropriate to the age group
- is excellent at interpersonal communication with kids
- is good at interpersonal communication with parents
- has excellent integrity, means what he says, says what he means
- develops and communicates criteria for roster and playing time decisions and enforces it uniformly
- is approachable, open, honest, and respectful with regard to parent communications




Building on PP's post, I would say that the most important thing, and what most clubs and coaches are lacking, is communication. Communication with players and communication with parents. Establishing expectations, communicating regularly (not just in formal player evaluations) with each player on the team about where they stand, and being willing to discuss issues that may come up from time to time with parents are all important to me.

My son just left a club with good training and coaching, but the communication isn't there, nor is a sense of fairness in terms of consistent treatment.

As a parent who has watched from the sidelines for many years, I would say that the best coaches are like the best teachers. They see what each kid has to offer and try to connect with every player to help that player become the best he or she can be. When kids feel that they are important, even if they are last off the bench, it inspires them to get better.

One of my kids has a difficult personality that needs to be closely managed. That is his problem, and we try to work on it all the time. However, when club administrators and coaches do not treat players fairly and do not act with integrity, it undermines the life lessons we are trying to teach our kids. These life lessons are more important than soccer, at least for us.



I totally agree with this. Kids know where they fit in playing ability. They need fair and equal training and opportunities to develop.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2019 09:29     Subject: Re:Discussion: What actually matters to you about your club and coaches?

Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I want a coach who :
- is competent in all tactical and strategic aspects of soccer and can communicate (teach) these
- is smart enough to balance player development and team competitiveness appropriate to the age group
- is excellent at interpersonal communication with kids
- is good at interpersonal communication with parents
- has excellent integrity, means what he says, says what he means
- develops and communicates criteria for roster and playing time decisions and enforces it uniformly
- is approachable, open, honest, and respectful with regard to parent communications




As a parent of still youngish players, all of these things, and especially the bolded one.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2019 09:26     Subject: Re:Discussion: What actually matters to you about your club and coaches?

Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I want a coach who :
- is competent in all tactical and strategic aspects of soccer and can communicate (teach) these
- is smart enough to balance player development and team competitiveness appropriate to the age group
- is excellent at interpersonal communication with kids
- is good at interpersonal communication with parents
- has excellent integrity, means what he says, says what he means
- develops and communicates criteria for roster and playing time decisions and enforces it uniformly
- is approachable, open, honest, and respectful with regard to parent communications




Building on PP's post, I would say that the most important thing, and what most clubs and coaches are lacking, is communication. Communication with players and communication with parents. Establishing expectations, communicating regularly (not just in formal player evaluations) with each player on the team about where they stand, and being willing to discuss issues that may come up from time to time with parents are all important to me.

My son just left a club with good training and coaching, but the communication isn't there, nor is a sense of fairness in terms of consistent treatment.

As a parent who has watched from the sidelines for many years, I would say that the best coaches are like the best teachers. They see what each kid has to offer and try to connect with every player to help that player become the best he or she can be. When kids feel that they are important, even if they are last off the bench, it inspires them to get better.

One of my kids has a difficult personality that needs to be closely managed. That is his problem, and we try to work on it all the time. However, when club administrators and coaches do not treat players fairly and do not act with integrity, it undermines the life lessons we are trying to teach our kids. These life lessons are more important than soccer, at least for us.

Anonymous
Post 11/01/2019 09:11     Subject: Re:Discussion: What actually matters to you about your club and coaches?

As a parent, I want a coach who :
- is competent in all tactical and strategic aspects of soccer and can communicate (teach) these
- is smart enough to balance player development and team competitiveness appropriate to the age group
- is excellent at interpersonal communication with kids
- is good at interpersonal communication with parents
- has excellent integrity, means what he says, says what he means
- develops and communicates criteria for roster and playing time decisions and enforces it uniformly
- is approachable, open, honest, and respectful with regard to parent communications


Anonymous
Post 11/01/2019 07:25     Subject: Discussion: What actually matters to you about your club and coaches?

Anonymous wrote:With so many threads having heated opinions about their clubs, their coach, private training options (or lack thereof,) why they had such a terrible experience at xyz club, it's time to start talking about actual solutions.

This may be a dumb question, but when it really comes down to it, what matters to you?

More playing time?
Better competition?
More wins?
Nicer coaches?
More knowledgeable coaches?
Improved chance of getting recruited?
Bigger club stickers and magnets?

Discuss.

Playing time is exactly what the players want. They practice hard 4 or more times a week - they want to play
Better competition - Yes. This area is diluted with all the clubs. There is one great team per club per age group - the rest are middle of the road
More wins - no better competition
Nicer coaches - NO one is complaining about the "Niceness" of a coach. Its is the over and above abuse from untrained unqualified coaches
More Knowledgeable - more classes in soccer do not make a coach better. They need to play- been a player - see the game from the field - not a powerpoint
Recruited - Any kid in any of the area clubs can get recruited. They have to do the work - the id camps - the contact with coaches



Anonymous
Post 10/31/2019 17:02     Subject: Discussion: What actually matters to you about your club and coaches?

With so many threads having heated opinions about their clubs, their coach, private training options (or lack thereof,) why they had such a terrible experience at xyz club, it's time to start talking about actual solutions.

This may be a dumb question, but when it really comes down to it, what matters to you?

More playing time?
Better competition?
More wins?
Nicer coaches?
More knowledgeable coaches?
Improved chance of getting recruited?
Bigger club stickers and magnets?

Discuss.