Anonymous
10/08/2019 11:27
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:To be clear, Duke Ellington is ranked #5 in the city on academics (USNWR), but of the top 5 it is the only one that does not accept kids based on academics. Entry is solely based on the audition, so saying Duke does not do well in academics ignores the fact that (a) arts is not included in the rankings and (b) it stands at #5 with many kids coming in with far lower academic standing than SWW, Banneker, McKinley. Also many Duke grads do not go into the arts for college or a profession, but the training is pre-professional, so as others said, if your child is a "like" the arts person and not a "love the arts" person, a 8:30-5pm day will not serve them well.
Do people really refer to the school as "Duke" now? All the other schools named after people go by the person's last name (like Banneker and McKinley above). Duke just sounds off.
Anonymous
10/08/2019 11:23
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
To be clear, Duke Ellington is ranked #5 in the city on academics (USNWR), but of the top 5 it is the only one that does not accept kids based on academics. Entry is solely based on the audition, so saying Duke does not do well in academics ignores the fact that (a) arts is not included in the rankings and (b) it stands at #5 with many kids coming in with far lower academic standing than SWW, Banneker, McKinley. Also many Duke grads do not go into the arts for college or a profession, but the training is pre-professional, so as others said, if your child is a "like" the arts person and not a "love the arts" person, a 8:30-5pm day will not serve them well.
Anonymous
10/08/2019 11:23
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a child who is great at drawing and painting, but is also really smart.
Does anyone know how Duke does in this area?
TIA
Your child will be absolutely fine. Are they doing what they love? Are they happy and engaged and appropriately challenged for their next stage in life? Do they have supportive and loving family? Then your child will be fine.
Not sure I agree with that. I'd want to pick a high school where a kid who graduates could go to college and study any field he or she chooses. I am not convinced that a child who goes through Ellington would be successful in the introductory level of math at many colleges...and for those whose artistic discipline is not writing, I'd also be concerned about their ability to handle an English or humanities class.
It's just unfortunate that the public school options are either an intensive art school where most kids aren't on grade level in math or an intensive academic program without art classes or a school musical (both by lottery), or an in-bounds school that offers neither grade-level coursework nor good extracurriculars. It shouldn't be too much to ask to have a school that does a play, lets kids take studio arts classes, AND can get kids doing precalc or calc by senior year.
IF you want your kid to study any field they choose, and aren't sure art, theatre, etc are their thing, don't go to Ellington. And while there are many students who are not proficient or advanced on PARCC, probably due in large part to where they attended ES and MS, there are students who fill the Ellington Honors classes, take AP English, AP Art History, Ap Biology, AP Music etc and pass. So I don't know that it's fair to say that Ellington is holding those who are academically strong back.
Anonymous
10/08/2019 10:47
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a child who is great at drawing and painting, but is also really smart.
Does anyone know how Duke does in this area?
TIA
Your child will be absolutely fine. Are they doing what they love? Are they happy and engaged and appropriately challenged for their next stage in life? Do they have supportive and loving family? Then your child will be fine.
Not sure I agree with that. I'd want to pick a high school where a kid who graduates could go to college and study any field he or she chooses. I am not convinced that a child who goes through Ellington would be successful in the introductory level of math at many colleges...and for those whose artistic discipline is not writing, I'd also be concerned about their ability to handle an English or humanities class.
IF you want your kid to study any field they choose, and aren't sure art, theatre, etc are their thing, don't go to Ellington. And while there are many students who are not proficient or advanced on PARCC, probably due in large part to where they attended ES and MS, there are students who fill the Ellington Honors classes, take AP English, AP Art History, Ap Biology, AP Music etc and pass. So I don't know that it's fair to say that Ellington is holding those who are academically strong back.
Anonymous
10/08/2019 10:40
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:Kiddo? We are now calling 15–19 year olds “kiddo”!
Only the most annoying among us do this.
Anonymous
10/08/2019 10:38
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a child who is great at drawing and painting, but is also really smart.
Does anyone know how Duke does in this area?
TIA
Your child will be absolutely fine. Are they doing what they love? Are they happy and engaged and appropriately challenged for their next stage in life? Do they have supportive and loving family? Then your child will be fine.
Not sure I agree with that. I'd want to pick a high school where a kid who graduates could go to college and study any field he or she chooses. I am not convinced that a child who goes through Ellington would be successful in the introductory level of math at many colleges...and for those whose artistic discipline is not writing, I'd also be concerned about their ability to handle an English or humanities class.
Anonymous
10/08/2019 09:34
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a child who is great at drawing and painting, but is also really smart.
Does anyone know how Duke does in this area?
TIA
Your child will be absolutely fine. Are they doing what they love? Are they happy and engaged and appropriately challenged for their next stage in life? Do they have supportive and loving family? Then your child will be fine.
Bad advice! You don’t go to Duke Ellington for the academics.
Anonymous
10/07/2019 22:39
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:I have a child who is great at drawing and painting, but is also really smart.
Does anyone know how Duke does in this area?
TIA
Your child will be absolutely fine. Are they doing what they love? Are they happy and engaged and appropriately challenged for their next stage in life? Do they have supportive and loving family? Then your child will be fine.
Anonymous
10/07/2019 22:10
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Kiddo? We are now calling 15–19 year olds “kiddo”!
Anonymous
10/07/2019 21:28
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Also desire or not they have poor academic results.
Anonymous
10/07/2019 19:27
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a child who is great at drawing and painting, but is also really smart.
Does anyone know how Duke does in this area?
TIA
It would be torture.
The math scores at Ellington are dismal, and the rest not much better.
Ellington is for students who want to avoid academics and just arts.
Not true. But what is true is that Ellington students excel and are most passionate about art and most want to pursue an art-related career.
Anonymous
10/07/2019 18:59
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:I have a child who is great at drawing and painting, but is also really smart.
Does anyone know how Duke does in this area?
TIA
It would be torture.
The math scores at Ellington are dismal, and the rest not much better.
Ellington is for students who want to avoid academics and just arts.
Anonymous
10/07/2019 18:20
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
At this point, your child would have relatively few kids on grade level in his/her academic classes. Having a cohort of high achievers matters to a lot of parents on this site. But it might not matter to you and your kid, or things might change by the time your kid is old enough. The PARCC scores are all online so you can see them. Ellington's PARCC scores are similar to Washington Leadership Academy. Ellington does the same as Wilson for ELA but is much lower in math. Latin and Basis and SWW and Banneker and McKinley tech all outperform them. If you had those as options it would be worth considering. If your choice turns out to be Ellington vs. Eastern or Cardozo, the calculus is different.
A lot of this depends on your time horizon. Do you have a 3 year old or a 13-year old?
A lot of this depends on your time horizon. Do you have a 3 year old or a 13-year old?
Anonymous
10/07/2019 18:07
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
It has advanced classes. There are some very bright kids there there are also very talented students who aren’t academic standouts. Students can do dual enrollment.
But if they really don’t intend to major or minor in art, or they aren’t excited about spending 3-4 hours per day doing visual arts (until nearly 6 pm) in addition to 6 academic classes, they probably won’t want to be there.
But if they really don’t intend to major or minor in art, or they aren’t excited about spending 3-4 hours per day doing visual arts (until nearly 6 pm) in addition to 6 academic classes, they probably won’t want to be there.
Anonymous
10/07/2019 17:55
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
I have a child who is great at drawing and painting, but is also really smart.
Does anyone know how Duke does in this area?
TIA
Does anyone know how Duke does in this area?
TIA