Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 19:09     Subject: Re:Trump involved Pence in pressuring Ukraine; aides say Pence was unaware of Trump's motive
Anonymous wrote:More like Trump has brought Pence along on everything corrupt to ensure Trump has leverage over him should Trump go down. Trump could say, "Pardon me and I won't take you down with me" sort of leverage. Pence is so stupid he probably has no idea.

I do not care for denying Pence agency. Manafort brought him aboard. He knows the score.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 19:01     Subject: Re:Trump involved Pence in pressuring Ukraine; aides say Pence was unaware of Trump's motive
More like Trump has brought Pence along on everything corrupt to ensure Trump has leverage over him should Trump go down. Trump could say, "Pardon me and I won't take you down with me" sort of leverage. Pence is so stupid he probably has no idea.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 19:00     Subject: Re:Trump involved Pence in pressuring Ukraine; aides say Pence was unaware of Trump's motive
The GOP is going to do everything possible to push this storyline. It reminds me of Iran-Contra and how they insulated Reagan from knowledge and blame.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 18:59     Subject: Re:Trump involved Pence in pressuring Ukraine; aides say Pence was unaware of Trump's motive
Get Rob Portman in front of Schiff's committee to testify - Portman will bring Pence down with him.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 18:38     Subject: Trump involved Pence in pressuring Ukraine; aides say Pence was unaware of Trump's motive
Things are about to get worse. Pence is trying to distance himself and clearly thinks that impeachment is becoming likely. He want to be president.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 18:34     Subject: Trump involved Pence in pressuring Ukraine; aides say Pence was unaware of Trump's motive
^^ certainly Not.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 18:33     Subject: Trump involved Pence in pressuring Ukraine; aides say Pence was unaware of Trump's motive
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is Pence turning on DT? Is he (or closest aide) a source of this article? He comes off a bumbling idiot, but he could get away with claiming naivety to the evangelicals.

This seems like a big development at any rate....


Well evangelicals may forgive him (they gave Trump mulligans), but will Trump let Pence take over?


Certainly now - but once he claims Pence is trying to form a coup, I think the Rs might finally catch on and force him out.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 18:32     Subject: Trump involved Pence in pressuring Ukraine; aides say Pence was unaware of Trump's motive
Anonymous wrote:Is Pence turning on DT? Is he (or closest aide) a source of this article? He comes off a bumbling idiot, but he could get away with claiming naivety to the evangelicals.

This seems like a big development at any rate....


Well evangelicals may forgive him (they gave Trump mulligans), but will Trump let Pence take over?
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 18:31     Subject: Trump involved Pence in pressuring Ukraine; aides say Pence was unaware of Trump's motive
Anonymous wrote:Poor Pence my a$$.

He’s a bigot he hitched his wagon to a con man.


I forgot the /s...and the world's smallest violin playing in the background.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 18:30     Subject: Trump involved Pence in pressuring Ukraine; aides say Pence was unaware of Trump's motive
Is Pence turning on DT? Is he (or closest aide) a source of this article? He comes off a bumbling idiot, but he could get away with claiming naivety to the evangelicals.

This seems like a big development at any rate....
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 18:25     Subject: Trump involved Pence in pressuring Ukraine; aides say Pence was unaware of Trump's motive
Poor Pence my a$$.

He’s a bigot he hitched his wagon to a con man.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 18:23     Subject: Trump involved Pence in pressuring Ukraine; aides say Pence was unaware of Trump's motive
Anonymous wrote:The Titanic is sinking. Pence is cocaptain.


And Pence thinks he can come out smelling like roses when Trump sinks by just acting incompetent...
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 18:21     Subject: Trump involved Pence in pressuring Ukraine; aides say Pence was unaware of Trump's motive
The Titanic is sinking. Pence is cocaptain.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 18:20     Subject: Re:Trump involved Pence in pressuring Ukraine; aides say Pence was unaware of Trump's motive
Officials close to Pence insist that he was unaware of Trump’s efforts to press Zelensky for damaging information about Biden and his son.


We’re back to where we were with Pence in charge of Flynn’s nefarious activities during the transition. Either Pence is corrupt or he’s incompetent for not noticing the corruption. Either way he’s unfit.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 18:15     Subject: Trump involved Pence in pressuring Ukraine; aides say Pence was unaware of Trump's motive
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-involved-pence-in-efforts-to-pressure-ukraines-leader-though-aides-say-vice-president-was-unaware-of-pursuit-of-dirt-on-bidens/2019/10/02/263aa9e2-e4a7-11e9-b403-f738899982d2_story.html

Trump repeatedly involved Vice President Pence in efforts to exert pressure on the leader of Ukraine at a time when the president was using other channels to solicit information that he hoped would be damaging to a Democratic rival, current and former U.S. officials said.

Officials close to Pence insist that he was unaware of Trump’s efforts to press Zelensky for damaging information about Biden and his son, who had served on the board of an obscure Ukrainian gas company, when his father was overseeing U.S. policy on Ukraine.

Pence’s activities occurred amid several indications of the president’s hidden agenda. Among them were the abrupt removal of the U.S. ambassador to Kiev; the visible efforts by the president’s lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, to insert himself in the U.S.-Ukraine relationship; as well as alarms being raised inside the White House even before the emergence of an extraordinary whistleblower complaint about Trump’s conduct.

Perhaps most significantly, one of Pence’s top advisers was on the July 25 call and the vice president should have had access to the transcript within hours, officials said.

Officials close to Pence contend that he traveled to Warsaw for a meeting with Zelensky on Sept. 1 probably without having read — or at least fully registered — the transcript of Trump’s July 25 call with the leader of Ukraine.

White House officials said that Pence likely would have received the detailed notes of the president’s call in his briefing book on July 26.The five-page document also should have been part of the briefing materials he took with him to Warsaw to prepare for the meeting, according to the officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal matters.


very interesting news drop at this time today. Trump knows he is going down, Pence knows it too. Pence is trying to distance himself from the Ukrainian scandal and WH officials won't let him. Poor Pence...