Anonymous
10/02/2019 07:35
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
And, when a police officer - a person who has sworn to uphold the law - finds that a person involved in a traffic accident doesn't have a license to operate a vehicle AND is unlawfully in this country is reprimanded for upholding the law, there is a problem.
Nope. That's not what he was reprimanded for. Read the OP.
I am the OP. He was reprimanded for upholding the law.
Anonymous
10/02/2019 07:13
Subject: Re:How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
I’m fine with it. LEOs don’t get to make up their own rules as they go along, that makes us all less safe.
Anonymous
10/02/2019 07:08
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:
And, when a police officer - a person who has sworn to uphold the law - finds that a person involved in a traffic accident doesn't have a license to operate a vehicle AND is unlawfully in this country is reprimanded for upholding the law, there is a problem.
Nope. That's not what he was reprimanded for. Read the OP.
Anonymous
10/02/2019 07:04
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would criminal law enforcement be involved in administrative enforcement?
Why would someone knowingly come here in violation of federal law, and then operate a motor vehicle without a license or insurance in violation of Virginia law?
Have you spent any time wondering about that?
No, you say?
Shocking.
Why would someone knowingly come here in violation of federal law? For an opportunity for a better life.
Why would someone operate a motor vehicle without a license or insurance in violation of Virginia law? Because to get places in Virginia, you basically have to drive.
This isn't complicated. If you think it is, that's shocking.
And, when a police officer - a person who has sworn to uphold the law - finds that a person involved in a traffic accident doesn't have a license to operate a vehicle AND is unlawfully in this country is reprimanded for upholding the law, there is a problem.
Anonymous
10/02/2019 06:51
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would criminal law enforcement be involved in administrative enforcement?
Why would someone knowingly come here in violation of federal law, and then operate a motor vehicle without a license or insurance in violation of Virginia law?
Have you spent any time wondering about that?
No, you say?
Shocking.
Why would someone knowingly come here in violation of federal law? For an opportunity for a better life.
Why would someone operate a motor vehicle without a license or insurance in violation of Virginia law? Because to get places in Virginia, you basically have to drive.
This isn't complicated. If you think it is, that's shocking.
Anonymous
10/02/2019 06:45
Subject: Re:How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:That is so stupid. I hate that Fairfax county is overrun with illegals. What idiot came up with this rule?
OP here. My question as well.
I am wondering how long this rule has been on the books.
Anonymous
10/01/2019 23:47
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:The officer is a hero. The chief should be fired.
+1, he needs to get booted all the way back to NYC where he came from.
Anonymous
10/01/2019 23:23
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
The officer is a hero. The chief should be fired.
Anonymous
10/01/2019 21:21
Subject: Re:How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
That is so stupid. I hate that Fairfax county is overrun with illegals. What idiot came up with this rule?
Anonymous
10/01/2019 20:58
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:Why would criminal law enforcement be involved in administrative enforcement?
Why would someone knowingly come here in violation of federal law, and then operate a motor vehicle without a license or insurance in violation of Virginia law?
Have you spent any time wondering about that?
No, you say?
Shocking.
Anonymous
10/01/2019 20:01
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Why would criminal law enforcement be involved in administrative enforcement?
Anonymous
10/01/2019 19:50
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
I think there’s about to be a work-slowdown among Fairfax county police.
Whether the officers on the street agree or disagree with the policy is beside the point. None of them like that a fellow officer is being made an example of, caught up in some political theater, with real life consequences when it comes to his career.
No cops will like that, and this will seriously affect force morale in a very negative way.
I didn’t know anything about the current chief, but after seeing this, he’s clearly an idiot.
Whether the officers on the street agree or disagree with the policy is beside the point. None of them like that a fellow officer is being made an example of, caught up in some political theater, with real life consequences when it comes to his career.
No cops will like that, and this will seriously affect force morale in a very negative way.
I didn’t know anything about the current chief, but after seeing this, he’s clearly an idiot.
Anonymous
10/01/2019 17:54
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Next time have a civilian contact ice
Anonymous
10/01/2019 17:52
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Dumb
Anonymous
10/01/2019 17:47
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
This officer is facing disciplinary action for violating FCPD General Order 601-Arrest procedures (VIII c. 5. e.) which reads:
If the response reads “OUTSTANDING ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANT OF REMOVAL” and the individual is not in custody or being taken into custody for any other violation of law, officers shall not confirm the hit through LESC and shall not take the individual into custody based solely upon the IVF hit. The majority of such administrative warrants represent civil violations of immigration law.
Do we not have immigration laws in this country?
This partially explains why we have north of (probably VERY north of) 12 million illegal aliens residing in our country.
Background:
https://fcpdnews.wordpress.com/2019/10/01/chief-roesslers-statement-on-officers-custodial-detention-and-ice-notification/
If the response reads “OUTSTANDING ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANT OF REMOVAL” and the individual is not in custody or being taken into custody for any other violation of law, officers shall not confirm the hit through LESC and shall not take the individual into custody based solely upon the IVF hit. The majority of such administrative warrants represent civil violations of immigration law.
Do we not have immigration laws in this country?
This partially explains why we have north of (probably VERY north of) 12 million illegal aliens residing in our country.
Background:
On Saturday, Sept. 21, 2019, at 2:46 p.m., a FCPD officer was handling a traffic accident at Harrison Lane at South Kings Highway in the Alexandria section of the county.
The officer found that one driver did not have a Virginia Operator’s license and obtained the driver’s information to conduct a check to verify the DMV record. During the query of the of the driver’s information, the officer received notification from the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency (ICE), that the driver was wanted by ICE for an administrative violation warrant on file for the failure to appear for a deportation hearing.
The officer then confirmed the information through the Fairfax County Department of Public Safety Communication’s Teletype Section, which is responsible for verification of all warrants with the originating agencies.
The officer then contacted the ICE agent that was listed as the point of contact on the confirmation of the warrant. The ICE agent advised the officer that they were close by and responding to the location of the traffic crash.
The FCPD officer then issued a uniform summons to the driver for not having an operator’s license. The driver signed the summons. However, the officer then decided to detain the driver through a custodial detention and turned over custody to the ICE agent.
https://fcpdnews.wordpress.com/2019/10/01/chief-roesslers-statement-on-officers-custodial-detention-and-ice-notification/