Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From what I hear it is only passable. I think so much of the school's time, energy, and funding goes into Spanish, there is not as much left for other things. The same could be said for the students' mental bandwidth and time. I know the parent group has a committee on the topic.

With DCI no longer a guarantee, I would expect higher attrition in upper elementary as people may seek to lock down a middle and high school path via Latin, Basis, Wilson feeders, or the burbs. So that would mean a smaller cohort or backfilling with kids who may be less academically prepared.

Don’t think so. Much, much better chance of getting in DCI than Latin, Basis, Wilson feeders OOB. And 0 chance of going to the IB middle and high school. We know many families who are not interested in moving WOTP take the long view with MV and DCI and know the odds unlike you.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From what I hear it is only passable. I think so much of the school's time, energy, and funding goes into Spanish, there is not as much left for other things. The same could be said for the students' mental bandwidth and time. I know the parent group has a committee on the topic.

With DCI no longer a guarantee, I would expect higher attrition in upper elementary as people may seek to lock down a middle and high school path via Latin, Basis, Wilson feeders, or the burbs. So that would mean a smaller cohort or backfilling with kids who may be less academically prepared.

Don’t think so. Much, much better chance of getting in DCI than Latin, Basis, Wilson feeders OOB. And 0 chance of going to the IB middle and high school. We know many families who are not interested in moving WOTP take the long view with MV and DCI and know the odds unlike you.

Anonymous wrote:From what I hear it is only passable. I think so much of the school's time, energy, and funding goes into Spanish, there is not as much left for other things. The same could be said for the students' mental bandwidth and time. I know the parent group has a committee on the topic.

With DCI no longer a guarantee, I would expect higher attrition in upper elementary as people may seek to lock down a middle and high school path via Latin, Basis, Wilson feeders, or the burbs. So that would mean a smaller cohort or backfilling with kids who may be less academically prepared.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/teachers-at-a-dc-charter-school-are-trying-to-unionize-in-a-rare-move/2019/04/23/3b1d9568-652c-11e9-a1b6-b29b90efa879_story.html?outputType=amp

Perry Stein says 27.9% attrition for SY 17-18. So a big uptick from 16%.

Most importantly for OP, how are they going to staff MV8 with experienced teachers from P St like they say they will, if so many are leaving?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the new campus I would be concerned about teacher quality. They have to find new Spanish-speaking teachers every year, and they can't move too many from P St without a negative impact there. MV already has a problem with teacher retention and Spanish speaking teachers have more labor market power. Also a lot of their teachers do not have MA, just a BA and not in teaching. So, I'm not a fan.

Where are you finding your data on teacher retention? According to the State Board of Education report on teacher attrition Mundo Verde does not have a problem with teacher retention. Three year averages for similar HRCS--
DCB-9%
Stokes-12%
LAMB--10%
TR--12%
ITS--21%
Mundo Verde--16%

Compared with all charter schools MV is actually doing well. DC charter schools in have trouble retaining teachers in general. I am a teacher in the suburbs and we have many former DC charter school teachers here because they want better benefits and a larger system of support.

This is SY 2017 data, before things got unpleasant enough that the teachers chose to unionize. OP, a charter teacher union is exceedingly rare in DC. Makes me wonder why they felt it was necessary. So I would look at 16% as a floor, a more recent stat might be worse.

I suspect ITS looks high because of their teaching fellows, who stay for one year by design. MV is the highest turnover among DCI feeders except Yu Ying (27%, wow).

More charters: Lee 14%. CMI 31% (ouch!).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the new campus I would be concerned about teacher quality. They have to find new Spanish-speaking teachers every year, and they can't move too many from P St without a negative impact there. MV already has a problem with teacher retention and Spanish speaking teachers have more labor market power. Also a lot of their teachers do not have MA, just a BA and not in teaching. So, I'm not a fan.

Where are you finding your data on teacher retention? According to the State Board of Education report on teacher attrition Mundo Verde does not have a problem with teacher retention. Three year averages for similar HRCS--
DCB-9%
Stokes-12%
LAMB--10%
TR--12%
ITS--21%
Mundo Verde--16%

Compared with all charter schools MV is actually doing well. DC charter schools in have trouble retaining teachers in general. I am a teacher in the suburbs and we have many former DC charter school teachers here because they want better benefits and a larger system of support.

This is SY 2017 data, before things got unpleasant enough that the teachers chose to unionize. OP, a charter teacher union is exceedingly rare in DC. Makes me wonder why they felt it was necessary. So I would look at 16% as a floor, a more recent stat might be worse.

I suspect ITS looks high because of their teaching fellows, who stay for one year by design. MV is the highest turnover among DCI feeders except Yu Ying (27%, wow).

More charters: Lee 14%. CMI 31% (ouch!).

Which years? Also I think Yu Ying is a bit by design also isn't it? For the Chinese teachers?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the new campus I would be concerned about teacher quality. They have to find new Spanish-speaking teachers every year, and they can't move too many from P St without a negative impact there. MV already has a problem with teacher retention and Spanish speaking teachers have more labor market power. Also a lot of their teachers do not have MA, just a BA and not in teaching. So, I'm not a fan.

Where are you finding your data on teacher retention? According to the State Board of Education report on teacher attrition Mundo Verde does not have a problem with teacher retention. Three year averages for similar HRCS--
DCB-9%
Stokes-12%
LAMB--10%
TR--12%
ITS--21%
Mundo Verde--16%

Compared with all charter schools MV is actually doing well. DC charter schools in have trouble retaining teachers in general. I am a teacher in the suburbs and we have many former DC charter school teachers here because they want better benefits and a larger system of support.

This is SY 2017 data, before things got unpleasant enough that the teachers chose to unionize. OP, a charter teacher union is exceedingly rare in DC. Makes me wonder why they felt it was necessary. So I would look at 16% as a floor, a more recent stat might be worse.

I suspect ITS looks high because of their teaching fellows, who stay for one year by design. MV is the highest turnover among DCI feeders except Yu Ying (27%, wow).

More charters: Lee 14%. CMI 31% (ouch!).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the new campus I would be concerned about teacher quality. They have to find new Spanish-speaking teachers every year, and they can't move too many from P St without a negative impact there. MV already has a problem with teacher retention and Spanish speaking teachers have more labor market power. Also a lot of their teachers do not have MA, just a BA and not in teaching. So, I'm not a fan.

Where are you finding your data on teacher retention? According to the State Board of Education report on teacher attrition Mundo Verde does not have a problem with teacher retention. Three year averages for similar HRCS--
DCB-9%
Stokes-12%
LAMB--10%
TR--12%
ITS--21%
Mundo Verde--16%

Compared with all charter schools MV is actually doing well. DC charter schools in have trouble retaining teachers in general. I am a teacher in the suburbs and we have many former DC charter school teachers here because they want better benefits and a larger system of support.

Anonymous wrote:At the new campus I would be concerned about teacher quality. They have to find new Spanish-speaking teachers every year, and they can't move too many from P St without a negative impact there. MV already has a problem with teacher retention and Spanish speaking teachers have more labor market power. Also a lot of their teachers do not have MA, just a BA and not in teaching. So, I'm not a fan.