Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 22:52     Subject: Kudos to NY Times - Call to end legacy Admissions
They let in less qualified candidates in the place of better qualified candidates. At least they did in 1990. Ask me how I know.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 22:47     Subject: Kudos to NY Times - Call to end legacy Admissions
Let's remind this to the NYT next time they promote racist racial admissions:

"College admission is a zero-sum proposition — for every legacy admitted, another promising applicant is denied the career and economic opportunity that a top degree can provide."
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 22:41     Subject: Re:Kudos to NY Times - Call to end legacy Admissions
I went to Smith and would love my daughters to go there. I don't see anything wrong with the legacy. As I understand it, if two candidates are the same, they lean towards the legacy. There is something to be said of tradition. And, can you imagine how wonderful it would be to share an alma mater?
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 22:12     Subject: Re:Kudos to NY Times - Call to end legacy Admissions
Anonymous wrote:Np Did you even read the editorial. Why make a dumb comment like that? This is an important conversation and elite universities like Harvard should be called out for their crazy high legacy admit rate. They should at least have to openly explain themselves. Harvard really needs a new Admissions Director. Their guy has been in the Harvard bubble for over 50 years. He needs to understand that the world is changing.


The NYT is the elite itself protecting itself through questionable means like the Joi Ito example shows.

If they publish this it's because somehow it protects their elite status. Perhaps they want to distract from the Harvard case and the racial discrimination they (the NYT) continues to defend in 2019?
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 22:08     Subject: Re:Kudos to NY Times - Call to end legacy Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a very liberal Asian, went to an elite uni, and support constitutional affirmative action programs, but something really bothers me that White people have enjoyed legacies for decades but now that more and more people of color are attending elite universities (Asian and increasingly other POC) and their children can benefit from legacies, NOW all of sudden it's time to end them? SO. TYPICAL....


+ 1000 but keep the athletes so the wealthy whites can get in that route


Wealthy white legacies now using sports to get in


Whether the kid actually plays the sport or not.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 22:05     Subject: Re:Kudos to NY Times - Call to end legacy Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a very liberal Asian, went to an elite uni, and support constitutional affirmative action programs, but something really bothers me that White people have enjoyed legacies for decades but now that more and more people of color are attending elite universities (Asian and increasingly other POC) and their children can benefit from legacies, NOW all of sudden it's time to end them? SO. TYPICAL....


+ 1000 but keep the athletes so the wealthy whites can get in that route


Wealthy white legacies now using sports to get in
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 22:04     Subject: Re:Kudos to NY Times - Call to end legacy Admissions
Anonymous wrote:I'm a very liberal Asian, went to an elite uni, and support constitutional affirmative action programs, but something really bothers me that White people have enjoyed legacies for decades but now that more and more people of color are attending elite universities (Asian and increasingly other POC) and their children can benefit from legacies, NOW all of sudden it's time to end them? SO. TYPICAL....


+ 1000 but keep the athletes so the wealthy whites can get in that route
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 22:01     Subject: Re:Kudos to NY Times - Call to end legacy Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a very liberal Asian, went to an elite uni, and support constitutional affirmative action programs, but something really bothers me that White people have enjoyed legacies for decades but now that more and more people of color are attending elite universities (Asian and increasingly other POC) and their children can benefit from legacies, NOW all of sudden it's time to end them? SO. TYPICAL....


Can you actually read the editorial before posting? They address this exact complaint


I read the article and they note the position, follow it with a barely relevant response and consider it refuted. I don’t think they addressed it in any way other to restate their conclusion and repeat that it was unfair.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 21:48     Subject: Re:Kudos to NY Times - Call to end legacy Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Np Did you even read the editorial. Why make a dumb comment like that? This is an important conversation and elite universities like Harvard should be called out for their crazy high legacy admit rate. They should at least have to openly explain themselves. Harvard really needs a new Admissions Director. Their guy has been in the Harvard bubble for over 50 years. He needs to understand that the world is changing.


What is there to explain? They like cultivating community among its alumni.


You, my friend, are quite the sophisticated thinker.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 21:47     Subject: Re:Kudos to NY Times - Call to end legacy Admissions
Anonymous wrote:I'm a very liberal Asian, went to an elite uni, and support constitutional affirmative action programs, but something really bothers me that White people have enjoyed legacies for decades but now that more and more people of color are attending elite universities (Asian and increasingly other POC) and their children can benefit from legacies, NOW all of sudden it's time to end them? SO. TYPICAL....


Can you actually read the editorial before posting? They address this exact complaint
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 21:37     Subject: Re:Kudos to NY Times - Call to end legacy Admissions
I'm a very liberal Asian, went to an elite uni, and support constitutional affirmative action programs, but something really bothers me that White people have enjoyed legacies for decades but now that more and more people of color are attending elite universities (Asian and increasingly other POC) and their children can benefit from legacies, NOW all of sudden it's time to end them? SO. TYPICAL....
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 21:24     Subject: Re:Kudos to NY Times - Call to end legacy Admissions
Anonymous wrote:Np Did you even read the editorial. Why make a dumb comment like that? This is an important conversation and elite universities like Harvard should be called out for their crazy high legacy admit rate. They should at least have to openly explain themselves. Harvard really needs a new Admissions Director. Their guy has been in the Harvard bubble for over 50 years. He needs to understand that the world is changing.


What is there to explain? They like cultivating community among its alumni.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 20:37     Subject: Re:Kudos to NY Times - Call to end legacy Admissions
Np Did you even read the editorial. Why make a dumb comment like that? This is an important conversation and elite universities like Harvard should be called out for their crazy high legacy admit rate. They should at least have to openly explain themselves. Harvard really needs a new Admissions Director. Their guy has been in the Harvard bubble for over 50 years. He needs to understand that the world is changing.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 20:28     Subject: Kudos to NY Times - Call to end legacy Admissions
You should ask whether Joi Ito, the disgraced former head of MIT Media Lab and NYT Board Member until a couple days ago (and while they hid his dirty laundry) was somehow involved in the piece.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 20:23     Subject: Kudos to NY Times - Call to end legacy Admissions
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/09/07/opinion/sunday/end-legacy-college-admissions.amp.html

They make a strong case to end legacy admission and call it a shameless way of preserving the elite.