If you work hard for As and it is a struggle, you are a good student.

If you hardly work and get B's with no effort, you are brilliant.

If you party hard and do just enough not to fail, you are manipulative and clever.

These are the B students who rule the world telling these A students what to do, while these C students make a huge profit off of all of them.

The kids who get easy As in the hardest classes will be off on their own doing things the masses don't pay attention to, but that lowly advance the human condition.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought this gave many decent options. Keep in mind that some of the majors at these schools are more selective than others, but it is good list to start the search.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus?fbclid=IwAR0UN_azWA6X0Yy2dlHsaxg4COS91iWcdTklCrOY0q6oBrBkbwfROKcWHsY

The very first line of from the article... "If you're a good student with less-than-stellar test scores or a so-so GPA, these are the schools for you."[i] What does this mean? Other than test scores/GPA, how is a good student defined?

Are you serious? Who's a better student: the straight A kid with lame ECs who took no college level classes or the 3.4 unweighted who took more than the minimum required load of only college level classes, while also participating in competitive sports and playing an instrument?

What does that have to do with anything written above?

It answers the PP's question with a question pointing out that PP has a very narrow and likely incorrect view of what makes a good student. Test scores and GPA are part of a picture but don't always tell the story you think they tell.

But they are darn good predictors of where your kid will wind up.

There is no "good predictor" that shows A students do better than B students in the long run.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought this gave many decent options. Keep in mind that some of the majors at these schools are more selective than others, but it is good list to start the search.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus?fbclid=IwAR0UN_azWA6X0Yy2dlHsaxg4COS91iWcdTklCrOY0q6oBrBkbwfROKcWHsY

The very first line of from the article... "If you're a good student with less-than-stellar test scores or a so-so GPA, these are the schools for you."[i] What does this mean? Other than test scores/GPA, how is a good student defined?

Are you serious? Who's a better student: the straight A kid with lame ECs who took no college level classes or the 3.4 unweighted who took more than the minimum required load of only college level classes, while also participating in competitive sports and playing an instrument?

What does that have to do with anything written above?

It answers the PP's question with a question pointing out that PP has a very narrow and likely incorrect view of what makes a good student. Test scores and GPA are part of a picture but don't always tell the story you think they tell.

But they are darn good predictors of where your kid will wind up.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought this gave many decent options. Keep in mind that some of the majors at these schools are more selective than others, but it is good list to start the search.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus?fbclid=IwAR0UN_azWA6X0Yy2dlHsaxg4COS91iWcdTklCrOY0q6oBrBkbwfROKcWHsY

The very first line of from the article... "If you're a good student with less-than-stellar test scores or a so-so GPA, these are the schools for you."[i] What does this mean? Other than test scores/GPA, how is a good student defined?

Are you serious? Who's a better student: the straight A kid with lame ECs who took no college level classes or the 3.4 unweighted who took more than the minimum required load of only college level classes, while also participating in competitive sports and playing an instrument?

What does that have to do with anything written above?

It answers the PP's question with a question pointing out that PP has a very narrow and likely incorrect view of what makes a good student. Test scores and GPA are part of a picture but don't always tell the story you think they tell.

Understood. First, most schools acknowledge weight/rigor, so to the point about class difficulty, it’s accounted for. Secondly, if ECs are leading to lower grades and crappy test scores I’d argue do less ECs. It doesn’t help your application, it hurts it. Unless you’re a recruited athlete or musician grades matter more.

We are making the same point. The numbers alone don't tell you whether the kid is a good student.

I guess I don’t agree because in my view weighted GPA and test scores do tell most of the story. Sure, ECs matter but not nearly as much as grades, rigor (and school is part of that story), and scores.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought this gave many decent options. Keep in mind that some of the majors at these schools are more selective than others, but it is good list to start the search.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus?fbclid=IwAR0UN_azWA6X0Yy2dlHsaxg4COS91iWcdTklCrOY0q6oBrBkbwfROKcWHsY

The very first line of from the article... "If you're a good student with less-than-stellar test scores or a so-so GPA, these are the schools for you."[i] What does this mean? Other than test scores/GPA, how is a good student defined?

This is for students who are good but not great (less than stellar). In other words, B students. DCUM would have you think B students are doomed, but in fact, they go to college also.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought this gave many decent options. Keep in mind that some of the majors at these schools are more selective than others, but it is good list to start the search.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus?fbclid=IwAR0UN_azWA6X0Yy2dlHsaxg4COS91iWcdTklCrOY0q6oBrBkbwfROKcWHsY

The very first line of from the article... "If you're a good student with less-than-stellar test scores or a so-so GPA, these are the schools for you."[i] What does this mean? Other than test scores/GPA, how is a good student defined?

Are you serious? Who's a better student: the straight A kid with lame ECs who took no college level classes or the 3.4 unweighted who took more than the minimum required load of only college level classes, while also participating in competitive sports and playing an instrument?

What does that have to do with anything written above?

It answers the PP's question with a question pointing out that PP has a very narrow and likely incorrect view of what makes a good student. Test scores and GPA are part of a picture but don't always tell the story you think they tell.

Understood. First, most schools acknowledge weight/rigor, so to the point about class difficulty, it’s accounted for. Secondly, if ECs are leading to lower grades and crappy test scores I’d argue do less ECs. It doesn’t help your application, it hurts it. Unless you’re a recruited athlete or musician grades matter more.

We are making the same point. The numbers alone don't tell you whether the kid is a good student.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought this gave many decent options. Keep in mind that some of the majors at these schools are more selective than others, but it is good list to start the search.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus?fbclid=IwAR0UN_azWA6X0Yy2dlHsaxg4COS91iWcdTklCrOY0q6oBrBkbwfROKcWHsY

The very first line of from the article... "If you're a[b] good student with less-than-stellar test scores or a so-so GPA, these are the schools for you."[/b][i] What does this mean? Other than test scores/GPA, how is a good student defined?

It's a comparative; good is not stellar. That seems pretty straightforward to me.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought this gave many decent options. Keep in mind that some of the majors at these schools are more selective than others, but it is good list to start the search.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus?fbclid=IwAR0UN_azWA6X0Yy2dlHsaxg4COS91iWcdTklCrOY0q6oBrBkbwfROKcWHsY

The very first line of from the article... "If you're a good student with less-than-stellar test scores or a so-so GPA, these are the schools for you."[i] What does this mean? Other than test scores/GPA, how is a good student defined?

Are you serious? Who's a better student: the straight A kid with lame ECs who took no college level classes or the 3.4 unweighted who took more than the minimum required load of only college level classes, while also participating in competitive sports and playing an instrument?

What does that have to do with anything written above?

It answers the PP's question with a question pointing out that PP has a very narrow and likely incorrect view of what makes a good student. Test scores and GPA are part of a picture but don't always tell the story you think they tell.

Understood. First, most schools acknowledge weight/rigor, so to the point about class difficulty, it’s accounted for. Secondly, if ECs are leading to lower grades and crappy test scores I’d argue do less ECs. It doesn’t help your application, it hurts it. Unless you’re a recruited athlete or musician grades matter more.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought this gave many decent options. Keep in mind that some of the majors at these schools are more selective than others, but it is good list to start the search.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus?fbclid=IwAR0UN_azWA6X0Yy2dlHsaxg4COS91iWcdTklCrOY0q6oBrBkbwfROKcWHsY

The very first line of from the article... "If you're a good student with less-than-stellar test scores or a so-so GPA, these are the schools for you."[i] What does this mean? Other than test scores/GPA, how is a good student defined?

Are you serious? Who's a better student: the straight A kid with lame ECs who took no college level classes or the 3.4 unweighted who took more than the minimum required load of only college level classes, while also participating in competitive sports and playing an instrument?

What does that have to do with anything written above?

It answers the PP's question with a question pointing out that PP has a very narrow and likely incorrect view of what makes a good student. Test scores and GPA are part of a picture but don't always tell the story you think they tell.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought this gave many decent options. Keep in mind that some of the majors at these schools are more selective than others, but it is good list to start the search.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus?fbclid=IwAR0UN_azWA6X0Yy2dlHsaxg4COS91iWcdTklCrOY0q6oBrBkbwfROKcWHsY

The very first line of from the article... "If you're a good student with less-than-stellar test scores or a so-so GPA, these are the schools for you."[i] What does this mean? Other than test scores/GPA, how is a good student defined?

Are you serious? Who's a better student: the straight A kid with lame ECs who took no college level classes or the 3.4 unweighted who took more than the minimum required load of only college level classes, while also participating in competitive sports and playing an instrument?

What does that have to do with anything written above?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought this gave many decent options. Keep in mind that some of the majors at these schools are more selective than others, but it is good list to start the search.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus?fbclid=IwAR0UN_azWA6X0Yy2dlHsaxg4COS91iWcdTklCrOY0q6oBrBkbwfROKcWHsY

The very first line of from the article... "If you're a good student with less-than-stellar test scores or a so-so GPA, these are the schools for you."[i] What does this mean? Other than test scores/GPA, how is a good student defined?

Are you serious? Who's a better student: the straight A kid with lame ECs who took no college level classes or the 3.4 unweighted who took more than the minimum required load of only college level classes, while also participating in competitive sports and playing an instrument?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought this gave many decent options. Keep in mind that some of the majors at these schools are more selective than others, but it is good list to start the search.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus?fbclid=IwAR0UN_azWA6X0Yy2dlHsaxg4COS91iWcdTklCrOY0q6oBrBkbwfROKcWHsY

The very first line of from the article... "If you're a good student with less-than-stellar test scores or a so-so GPA, these are the schools for you."[i] What does this mean? Other than test scores/GPA, how is a good student defined?

My DC has a learning disability but is a hard-working and conscientious student. Glancing down this list I see some of the schools that we've already thought about, and so I'd like to take a closer look at these. Thanks OP.

Check out schools where your student scores in the 75 percentile. There’s something to say for being a big fish in a small pond.

Anonymous wrote:I thought this gave many decent options. Keep in mind that some of the majors at these schools are more selective than others, but it is good list to start the search.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus?fbclid=IwAR0UN_azWA6X0Yy2dlHsaxg4COS91iWcdTklCrOY0q6oBrBkbwfROKcWHsY

The very first line of from the article... "If you're a good student with less-than-stellar test scores or a so-so GPA, these are the schools for you."[i] What does this mean? Other than test scores/GPA, how is a good student defined?

I thought this gave many decent options. Keep in mind that some of the majors at these schools are more selective than others, but it is good list to start the search.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus?fbclid=IwAR0UN_azWA6X0Yy2dlHsaxg4COS91iWcdTklCrOY0q6oBrBkbwfROKcWHsY