Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crickets. Where are the UVA boosters? Congrats to Michigan pushing UVA out.

Sorry your kid didn’t get in.

Didn’t apply. Not a VA resident. He got into one of the top 10 though.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crickets. Where are the UVA boosters? Congrats to Michigan pushing UVA out.

UVA and W&M really dropped. Big change in just one year.

Meh. I wouldn't call UVA's drop to 28th from 25th as big. There are nine schools (counting ties) ranked between 25th and 29th. The overall score for the 25th ranked is 75 and for the 29th it's 72. Pretty negligible difference.

William and Mary on the other hand is now at 40th, a new low for them. Then there's Maryland, at 64th. Not THAT's the embarrassing ranking.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crickets. Where are the UVA boosters? Congrats to Michigan pushing UVA out.

UVA and W&M really dropped. Big change in just one year.

Since they started going to this new methodology, it favors schools with more Pell Grant students. Neither UVA or W&M has many Pell Grant students, unlike UC schools and some other schools like Florida. W&M took the hit last year, and it appears to have caught up to UVA a bit this year.

Michigan has benefited in selectivity by going to 50% out of state.

One thing I can't fathom is how Wake ranks quite high in USNWR, but nowhere close to that in the other rankings. They are now test-optional, which is a good sign they would have trouble maintaining the same scores if they were not. Yet they still have lower standardized test scores than UVA or W&M.

Anonymous wrote:Crickets. Where are the UVA boosters? Congrats to Michigan pushing UVA out.

Sorry your kid didn’t get in.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crickets. Where are the UVA boosters? Congrats to Michigan pushing UVA out.

UVA and W&M really dropped. Big change in just one year.

Sorry, that was my mistake. They stayed about the same.

Big jump for ND at #15 this year (from 18).

Anonymous wrote:Crickets. Where are the UVA boosters? Congrats to Michigan pushing UVA out.

UVA and W&M really dropped. Big change in just one year.

Anonymous wrote:This is all US News does now, right? Just rankings? Do they still have any reporting of news?

No news. People buy it for rankings.

To the Academic, unfortunate but in the real world lot of people look at these rankings. We are a statistics obsessed society. How many dollars do you have? How many championships? I am not sure how to get out of the cycle.

This is all US News does now, right? Just rankings? Do they still have any reporting of news?

Crickets. Where are the UVA boosters? Congrats to Michigan pushing UVA out.

I think USNWR rankings measure name recognition and trendiness as much as anything else. ( I am an academic, and every year I am asked by USNWR to fill out a questionnaire ranking the academic reputations of other universities, which essentially means I’m being asked to make guesses about institutions I know nothing about, based on random gossip. I refuse to fill the questionnaire out, but that just means that people who are completely untroubled by their ignorance and reliance on gossip are the ones submitting their questionnaires).

If you understand the limitations of these rankings, it can be useful to know which colleges have national reputations, since, for better or for worse, that can translate into job and graduate school opportunities for students. But aside from that, they are a very poor measure of actual educational quality.

Do people actually obsess so much over this? Poor folks.

Weirdly, the list is in the process of being updated, whereas the individual colleges, if you click on them, have already been updated. So the list may not be correct yet.

appear to be up