Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its called ENTITLEMENT

It is, and it's being displayed by drivers. If you can't stand to wait five minutes while young children file into a bus that is filled three butts to a seat, then YOU should get up earlier.

We're always first to the bus stop in the morning, btw, so it's not my kid who is late. But take a breath and look at your priorities.

The purpose of laws requiring traffic to stop behind a school bus is to promote safety by making it unlawful for drivers to pass a school bus while it is stopped to load or unload passengers. The duty to stop applies until passengers have been loaded and the bus is in motion (and red flashing lights off). No one is objecting to any delay required for safe loading and loading. Take all the time necessary to load and unload the kids safely.

The law, however, was never meant to apply to a bus that is waiting while parents drive up to the stop, kiss their kids goodbye, or, those who stand at the bus door and chat with the bus driver even after all riders have found seats. Moreover, it was also not intended to apply when a fully loaded bus sits and waits for one or two teenaged stragglers to approach the stop from a distance away, or while a rider is inside his house, gathering his backpack, while his mother stands at the door asking the bus driver and all of the traffic behind the bus to wait. The purpose was to promote safe loading, unloading, and crossing of the street to load, and it presumed that people would be at or near the stop when the bus arrived and considerate enough to load and unload in an orderly manner.


PS- no matter what time they get up, many parents can't leave until after their kids are on the bus. I'm so glad to be past these days, but when my kids were in elementary, the bus came at 9:20 a.m. (which is crazy). I needed to get to work as quickly as possible after the bus pulled away, and it was particularly annoying when I had to wait for other parents who delayed the departure of the bus after I got mine there on time. If you are driving your kid to the bus and you are late, why not just drive your kid to school? Why should everyone have to wait for you?

Anonymous wrote:I agree. There was one kid that was ALWAYS late to the bus, and he lives three doors down from the stop. The bus driver would always wait for him or just drive up to his house and stop. This is an middle/upper income area. So inconsiderate and entitled. Mom can't get him up 5 min earlier?

How about Dad, dingbat?

Anonymous wrote:I completely agree. This is a pet peeve of mine as well.

Sure, any student might occasionally run late for the bus and need the driver to wait a bit, but being late every day, sauntering to the stop when the red lights are on making traffic stop and wait for you, and adults having extended conversations with the drivers while others wait are unacceptable. And it has become the norm.

Our bus picks up at a traffic circle and I love our bus driver, because he will actuallly turn the red lights off if most kids are on the bus except for a slow mover or two off in the distance. This allows drivers to go around the circle while the latecomers continue their slow progress toward the bus These are high school kids, not little kids. Why should anyone have to wait for them to walk a half blck on the sidewalk, because they can't be bothered to get to the stop on time?

And don't even get me started on all the people who drive their kids to the bus (even in middle school) and then block traffic so that they can chat with other adults. Pull over or meet for coffee.

PS - I have kids on the bus too, and if they are late, they have to run or at least walk as fast as they can.

Or pull out ahead of the bus while the bus is finishing up loading and we are all stuck behind.

Anonymous wrote:Its called ENTITLEMENT

It is, and it's being displayed by drivers. If you can't stand to wait five minutes while young children file into a bus that is filled three butts to a seat, then YOU should get up earlier.

We're always first to the bus stop in the morning, btw, so it's not my kid who is late. But take a breath and look at your priorities.

Its called ENTITLEMENT

I completely agree. This is a pet peeve of mine as well.

Sure, any student might occasionally run late for the bus and need the driver to wait a bit, but being late every day, sauntering to the stop when the red lights are on making traffic stop and wait for you, and adults having extended conversations with the drivers while others wait are unacceptable. And it has become the norm.

Our bus picks up at a traffic circle and I love our bus driver, because he will actuallly turn the red lights off if most kids are on the bus except for a slow mover or two off in the distance. This allows drivers to go around the circle while the latecomers continue their slow progress toward the bus These are high school kids, not little kids. Why should anyone have to wait for them to walk a half blck on the sidewalk, because they can't be bothered to get to the stop on time?

And don't even get me started on all the people who drive their kids to the bus (even in middle school) and then block traffic so that they can chat with other adults. Pull over or meet for coffee.

PS - I have kids on the bus too, and if they are late, they have to run or at least walk as fast as they can.

Anonymous wrote:I agree. There was one kid that was ALWAYS late to the bus, and he lives three doors down from the stop. The bus driver would always wait for him or just drive up to his house and stop. This is an middle/upper income area. So inconsiderate and entitled. Mom can't get him up 5 min earlier?

Maybe mom can but dad can’t. Hence the tardiness.

Take as long as you need, kids. I'll wait.

- Parent with grown up kids who still thinks our little ones deserve a little break

DD attends private and we pay for bus service. The bus stops in front of people’s homes and the kid gets on the bus. DD has been 20 min late to school every day.

So either the bus route needs to start early because there is too much traffic or people need to be ready to get on the bus. DD reports that on following stops the bus driver pulls and and just waits until the kid finally walks out of the house.

Our school is K-12 across 2 campus’. I suppose 20 min late is not a big deal for 1st grade. In 10th, it’s a different story.

never get to interact with people getting on the bus int he morning, but my evening commute home has me occasionally stuck be hind a bus, and when the kids get off the bus, its like an after thought. Of this is my stop and my friend have already gotten off, So now I can collect ally my stuff get off the bus 60 seconds after every one else, Oh and then mom wants to lean and chat with the bus driver.

FFS get off the bus cross the road and let traffic flow.

Bus Driver, if there are more than 5 cars behind you on a two lane road, pull off to the side and let us pass, please.

Yes it stinks that you have start and stop every 50 yards... Please for the love of god, pull off in a turn lane or something and let the car go by.

I hear you OP. My neighborhood has Bus Nazis. I completely agree you don’t pass a stopped bus— from either direction, no matter what. But we kids who wait for the bus in their house, mosey on out with mom, get two kisses and a discussion on the bus steps. And when people honk or roll down their window and *nicely* ask them to hurry, parents take pictures of the cars and license plates and post them on the neighborhood FP page, along with their address, if they know it, and forward the info to the police. One guy had the whole neighborhood dumping dog sh*t in his yard last year. .

I had them do this to me once. I stopped at a stoplight. The kids were boarding the bus more than 1/2 block up the street to my left. No kids in my immediate area walking or running to catch the bus. . I came to a stop at the stoplight and turned right— away from the bus, not an illegal maneuver and drove away at the speed limit. . And yet, the mommy mafia doxxed me on the neighborhood FB page.

I send kids to school on the bus BTW. But this is nuts.

And my neighborhood is a nightmare during rush hours and the bus stop is at a choke point at a major intersection. . Traffic is backing up 3 blocks in 4 directions while this scene plays out.

I agree. There was one kid that was ALWAYS late to the bus, and he lives three doors down from the stop. The bus driver would always wait for him or just drive up to his house and stop. This is an middle/upper income area. So inconsiderate and entitled. Mom can't get him up 5 min earlier?

I hear you, OP. As a parent and a teacher I completely agree. People have lost their respect for others and it shows in their actions, like no urgency when your behaviors impede others.

Okay then.

Why in recent years is it acceptable for parents to drive to the bus stop, casually walk their kid to the bus, and let them slowly board, while traffic is being held up? Only about 5 or so years ago, when my kids were in elementary, I rushed them onto the bus (we walked a few blocks to the stop, in our neighborhood) and I believed they should just get on the damn bus and sit down so things could keep moving.

When I was a kid, I can remember running so as not to miss the bus! Now it is like their own personal limo.

Get the blazes on the bus and don’t be so inconsiderate.