Anonymous
08/13/2019 09:35
Subject: Myth: low income students do better in schools with <25% FARMs rate.
I haven't looked at the paper, and I have no idea if it's true or not.
My concern for the FARMs students would be if they are bussed to a high-income school, would all the services that are used to receiving at the low-income school, still be available to them? And would MCPS now have to provide those services at more schools, costing more money? And I'm not sure if this matters, but how many parents would pull their kids out of public and put them in private if they were forced to bus from a high-income school to a low-income school?
My concern for the FARMs students would be if they are bussed to a high-income school, would all the services that are used to receiving at the low-income school, still be available to them? And would MCPS now have to provide those services at more schools, costing more money? And I'm not sure if this matters, but how many parents would pull their kids out of public and put them in private if they were forced to bus from a high-income school to a low-income school?
Anonymous
08/13/2019 07:01
Subject: Myth: low income students do better in schools with <25% FARMs rate.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is not a study. It's a paper, like the ones many of us produced at university. I'd be embarrassed if someone tried to score political points off my master's thesis. It was the product of long hours and hard work, and I was proud of it at the time, but it wasn't real research nor was it peer reviewed or replicated.
No one could use it to "bust" a "myth." Which is fine, that was never the point.
Not even a master's thesis. A graduate-student capstone project.
All of this.
Anonymous
08/13/2019 06:55
Subject: Myth: low income students do better in schools with <25% FARMs rate.
Anonymous wrote:This is not a study. It's a paper, like the ones many of us produced at university. I'd be embarrassed if someone tried to score political points off my master's thesis. It was the product of long hours and hard work, and I was proud of it at the time, but it wasn't real research nor was it peer reviewed or replicated.
No one could use it to "bust" a "myth." Which is fine, that was never the point.
Not even a master's thesis. A graduate-student capstone project.
Anonymous
08/13/2019 06:50
Subject: Myth: low income students do better in schools with <25% FARMs rate.
This is not a study. It's a paper, like the ones many of us produced at university. I'd be embarrassed if someone tried to score political points off my master's thesis. It was the product of long hours and hard work, and I was proud of it at the time, but it wasn't real research nor was it peer reviewed or replicated.
No one could use it to "bust" a "myth." Which is fine, that was never the point.
No one could use it to "bust" a "myth." Which is fine, that was never the point.
Anonymous
08/13/2019 00:39
Subject: Myth: low income students do better in schools with <25% FARMs rate.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, what's your point? We should pull out all the farms kids in the rich schools and bus them to the FARMS schools so they cannot be seen or bring down the test scores.
No pint. Just like to bust the Myth.
Please read the research report. Fast forwards to figure 12 and 13
You're too dumb. I feel sorry for you.
DP, and your too rude.. get a life
Anonymous
08/12/2019 22:59
Subject: Re:Myth: low income students do better in schools with <25% FARMs rate.
The studies that do report an improvement in test scores show a fleeting increase in English scores only that does not persist after students transfer back to home school.
I feel strongly that we as a society need to start chipping away at this problem, but I am at a loss why. I would love to open a topic, crowd source it, see if someone has good ideas other than bussing.
I feel strongly that we as a society need to start chipping away at this problem, but I am at a loss why. I would love to open a topic, crowd source it, see if someone has good ideas other than bussing.
Anonymous
08/12/2019 22:40
Subject: Myth: low income students do better in schools with <25% FARMs rate.
“Using data available from MCSP the performance and achievement of MCPS high school students will be examined for differences between students attending high, medium or low poverty schools. Six high schools will be selected for examination, two for each of the three poverty categories. Primary focus will be to compare the performance and achievement of minority students and students receiving Free and Reduced Meals (FARMS) between the three poverty levels.”
“Table 12 displays the Maryland High School Assessment Performance Status results for academic year 2012. Algebra, Biology and English scores were aggregated for each of the six study schools for Black, Hispanic and FARMS students. The students at the two low-poverty schools, Churchill and Whitman, did not obtain scores higher than the moderate and high-poverty schools in every category. Churchill’s FARMS score was actually the lowest while the same was true for Whitman’s Black score. Whitman did not report FARMS scores because of the <= 5% regulation.”
“Table 12 displays the Maryland High School Assessment Performance Status results for academic year 2012. Algebra, Biology and English scores were aggregated for each of the six study schools for Black, Hispanic and FARMS students. The students at the two low-poverty schools, Churchill and Whitman, did not obtain scores higher than the moderate and high-poverty schools in every category. Churchill’s FARMS score was actually the lowest while the same was true for Whitman’s Black score. Whitman did not report FARMS scores because of the <= 5% regulation.”
Anonymous
08/12/2019 22:08
Subject: Myth: low income students do better in schools with <25% FARMs rate.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, what's your point? We should pull out all the farms kids in the rich schools and bus them to the FARMS schools so they cannot be seen or bring down the test scores.
No pint. Just like to bust the Myth.
Please read the research report. Fast forwards to figure 12 and 13
You're too dumb. I feel sorry for you.
Why you are so angry? Do you want to blame the poor kids sit next to you? Did you pass your algebra last year?
Anonymous
08/12/2019 21:48
Subject: Myth: low income students do better in schools with <25% FARMs rate.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, what's your point? We should pull out all the farms kids in the rich schools and bus them to the FARMS schools so they cannot be seen or bring down the test scores.
No pint. Just like to bust the Myth.
Please read the research report. Fast forwards to figure 12 and 13
You're too dumb. I feel sorry for you.
Anonymous
08/12/2019 21:29
Subject: Myth: low income students do better in schools with <25% FARMs rate.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, what's your point? We should pull out all the farms kids in the rich schools and bus them to the FARMS schools so they cannot be seen or bring down the test scores.
No pint. Just like to bust the Myth.
Please read the research report. Fast forwards to figure 12 and 13
This ain't it, chief.
Anonymous
08/12/2019 21:06
Subject: Myth: low income students do better in schools with <25% FARMs rate.
Anonymous wrote:So, what's your point? We should pull out all the farms kids in the rich schools and bus them to the FARMS schools so they cannot be seen or bring down the test scores.
No pint. Just like to bust the Myth.
Please read the research report. Fast forwards to figure 12 and 13
Anonymous
08/12/2019 21:05
Subject: Myth: low income students do better in schools with <25% FARMs rate.
Anonymous wrote:https://digitalcommons.du.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1052&context=geog_ms_capstone
Please read this research report: Montgomery County, MD Public Schools: Student Performance and Achievement of Low- income and Minority Students
Richard Joseph. 2014.
This author concluded that FARM students did not do better academically when attend W schools.
I don't know why MCPS chose to ignor or forget this research. Is it because the conclusion does not fit their narrative?
Umm, because it was done by a master's candidate as a capstone for a geography class, and has never been replicated or anything remotely along those lines? Are you being serious right now?!
Anonymous
08/12/2019 20:54
Subject: Myth: low income students do better in schools with <25% FARMs rate.
So, what's your point? We should pull out all the farms kids in the rich schools and bus them to the FARMS schools so they cannot be seen or bring down the test scores.
Anonymous
08/12/2019 20:50
Subject: Myth: low income students do better in schools with <25% FARMs rate.
Anonymous wrote:https://digitalcommons.du.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1052&context=geog_ms_capstone
Please read this research report: Montgomery County, MD Public Schools: Student Performance and Achievement of Low- income and Minority Students
Richard Joseph. 2014.
This author concluded that FARM students did not do better academically when attend W schools.
I don't know why MCPS chose to ignor or forget this research. Is it because the conclusion does not fit their narrative?
"Myth"? This is someone's master's thesis. It's not even properly proof-read, and I found multiple factual errors in just a quick scan of the first half.
Anonymous
08/12/2019 20:43
Subject: Myth: low income students do better in schools with <25% FARMs rate.
https://digitalcommons.du.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1052&context=geog_ms_capstone
Please read this research report: Montgomery County, MD Public Schools: Student Performance and Achievement of Low- income and Minority Students
Richard Joseph. 2014.
This author concluded that FARM students did not do better academically when attend W schools.
I don't know why MCPS chose to ignor or forget this research. Is it because the conclusion does not fit their narrative?
Please read this research report: Montgomery County, MD Public Schools: Student Performance and Achievement of Low- income and Minority Students
Richard Joseph. 2014.
This author concluded that FARM students did not do better academically when attend W schools.
I don't know why MCPS chose to ignor or forget this research. Is it because the conclusion does not fit their narrative?