Anonymous
Post 08/13/2019 10:21     Subject: Re:MD and DC have higher murder rates than VA, yet VA has more liberal gun laws ... explain.

Because urban areas have higher crime than rural areas (more people, more opportunity). MD and DC have more people living in an urban setting than VA.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2019 10:17     Subject: Re:MD and DC have higher murder rates than VA, yet VA has more liberal gun laws ... explain.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_09_tables-508.pdf#page29

Page 67 of 75. Homicide rates per 100K persons. I am not just talking about homicides by gun. I am talking overall murder rates, as a gun can be used to kill but can also be a deterrent to a variety of other methods. Anyhow, any thoughts on why murder rates (age adjusted, please read the footnote) are highest in DC (15.6) and close to twice as high in MD (10.2) than in VA (5.4)?





Nicely done.

That should dispense with their silly “citation please” deflections.

The only thing they’ll have left now is crickets and Trump rage.

Anonymous
Post 08/13/2019 09:08     Subject: MD and DC have higher murder rates than VA, yet VA has more liberal gun laws ... explain.

Most gun deaths are suicides, and Virginia does have a higher suicide rate than DC and MD.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2019 08:41     Subject: MD and DC have higher murder rates than VA, yet VA has more liberal gun laws ... explain.

Anonymous wrote:the guns are coming from virginia. but yeah, keep arguing that guns have nothing to do with gun violence. you just sound more and more stupid.


Truth
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2019 08:39     Subject: MD and DC have higher murder rates than VA, yet VA has more liberal gun laws ... explain.

^ Higher % of population in MD/DC live in high density areas.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2019 08:39     Subject: Re:MD and DC have higher murder rates than VA, yet VA has more liberal gun laws ... explain.

Higher % of population in MD/VA life in high density areas.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/01/03/5-facts-about-crime-in-the-u-s/
“The FBI notes that various factors might influence a particular area’s crime rate, including its population density and economic conditions.”






Anonymous
Post 08/13/2019 08:12     Subject: MD and DC have higher murder rates than VA, yet VA has more liberal gun laws ... explain.

the guns are coming from virginia. but yeah, keep arguing that guns have nothing to do with gun violence. you just sound more and more stupid.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2019 07:51     Subject: MD and DC have higher murder rates than VA, yet VA has more liberal gun laws ... explain.

Anonymous wrote:

Finally, the FBI is in transition in its Uniform Crime Reports data collection from its SRS to its NIBRS data sets, and not all states and reporting agencies are fully compliant. So it may not be apples to apples. Yet. I believe full compliance is expected next year. And it looks like the CDC stats are pulling from the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports stats.


This report uses death certificate data sent to CDC from states.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2019 07:34     Subject: MD and DC have higher murder rates than VA, yet VA has more liberal gun laws ... explain.

Crime is sociological in nature. It’s very complex, and I wouldn’t compare such broad categories as “homicides” in general across states. Not if firearms and their influence are your primary concerns. You need to narrow it to firearm related deaths then look at the homicide, accident, suicide rates.

Because homicide data is vague. Why is it higher in one state than another? Or one city over another? Much of it is environment driven. Wealth, substance abuse, mental health, relationships.

For example, maybe one state has a much higher domestic violence rate than the other. One state may have more stranger violence. Another state may have organized crime or gangs. It also matters whether murder was committed during the commission of another crime, because often it can be committed merely to complete the initial crime, such as rape. Rural vs. urban population ratios matter, too. There is generally more crime per capita in densely populated areas. For one, it just gets reported more often.

Finally, the FBI is in transition in its Uniform Crime Reports data collection from its SRS to its NIBRS data sets, and not all states and reporting agencies are fully compliant. So it may not be apples to apples. Yet. I believe full compliance is expected next year. And it looks like the CDC stats are pulling from the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports stats.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2019 00:06     Subject: Re:MD and DC have higher murder rates than VA, yet VA has more liberal gun laws ... explain.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_09_tables-508.pdf#page29

Page 67 of 75. Homicide rates per 100K persons. I am not just talking about homicides by gun. I am talking overall murder rates, as a gun can be used to kill but can also be a deterrent to a variety of other methods. Anyhow, any thoughts on why murder rates (age adjusted, please read the footnote) are highest in DC (15.6) and close to twice as high in MD (10.2) than in VA (5.4)?



Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 22:28     Subject: MD and DC have higher murder rates than VA, yet VA has more liberal gun laws ... explain.

Anonymous wrote:This is a question for those that believe the ability to carry a fire arm results in higher murder rates. The statistics dispute this conclusion. So what are the other factors that make MD and DC more murderous jurisdictions? Or is it that criminals are less likely to commit a crime in places where they believe the intended victims might be armed? Discuss ...

Feel free to cite facts as well as theories involving religion, politics, socio-economic status, culture, schools, gangs, etc.


Cities and states with more Dem politicians in charge = higher crime rates.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 21:24     Subject: MD and DC have higher murder rates than VA, yet VA has more liberal gun laws ... explain.

Murder includes more than firearm deaths. They include knives, fist fights, other weapons, etc.

And firearm deaths include more than murder. They include suicide too. And Virginia’s firearm death rate is higher than Maryland. Don’t know about DC.

So what stats are you looking at?
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 21:17     Subject: MD and DC have higher murder rates than VA, yet VA has more liberal gun laws ... explain.

Anonymous wrote:This is a question for those that believe the ability to carry a fire arm results in higher murder rates. The statistics dispute this conclusion. So what are the other factors that make MD and DC more murderous jurisdictions? Or is it that criminals are less likely to commit a crime in places where they believe the intended victims might be armed? Discuss ...

Feel free to cite facts as well as theories involving religion, politics, socio-economic status, culture, schools, gangs, etc.


You need to cite your source for this stat
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 21:15     Subject: MD and DC have higher murder rates than VA, yet VA has more liberal gun laws ... explain.

Citation for murder rates?
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 20:15     Subject: MD and DC have higher murder rates than VA, yet VA has more liberal gun laws ... explain.

This is a question for those that believe the ability to carry a fire arm results in higher murder rates. The statistics dispute this conclusion. So what are the other factors that make MD and DC more murderous jurisdictions? Or is it that criminals are less likely to commit a crime in places where they believe the intended victims might be armed? Discuss ...

Feel free to cite facts as well as theories involving religion, politics, socio-economic status, culture, schools, gangs, etc.