Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Please stop. There are dozens of threads on this. The label is basically a well-thought-out marketing slogan for smaller schools.

People like the above poster should be ignored.

I believe Loren Pope's original idea was a noble one: put together a list of colleges that are under the radar but provide a good quality undergraduate education. I think for the most part his vision still holds.

People who claim it's just a marketing ploy are usually "USN&WR Top 20" or bust parents whao can't seem to grap the fact that you can get a quality education any other place.

And people who claim it’s not a marketing ploy are just trying to make themselves feel better when their kids have to go second tier.

that is not answering the question--just being needlessly nasty

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Please stop. There are dozens of threads on this. The label is basically a well-thought-out marketing slogan for smaller schools.

People like the above poster should be ignored.

I believe Loren Pope's original idea was a noble one: put together a list of colleges that are under the radar but provide a good quality undergraduate education. I think for the most part his vision still holds.

People who claim it's just a marketing ploy are usually "USN&WR Top 20" or bust parents whao can't seem to grap the fact that you can get a quality education any other place.

And people who claim it’s not a marketing ploy are just trying to make themselves feel better when their kids have to go second tier.

CTCL are second tier schools. No thanks.

I'm curious about people's experience with Ohio Wesleyan

Anonymous wrote: Please stop. There are dozens of threads on this. The label is basically a well-thought-out marketing slogan for smaller schools.

Who hurt you?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Please stop. There are dozens of threads on this. The label is basically a well-thought-out marketing slogan for smaller schools.

People like the above poster should be ignored.

I believe Loren Pope's original idea was a noble one: put together a list of colleges that are under the radar but provide a good quality undergraduate education. I think for the most part his vision still holds.

People who claim it's just a marketing ploy are usually "USN&WR Top 20" or bust parents whao can't seem to grap the fact that you can get a quality education any other place.

Both things are true. Loren Pope coined the phrase and was indeed doing what you describe. Since then, those colleges have latched onto it as a marketing angle, and I believe, added more colleges to the list.

I went to Wooster in the late 80s. It was fine, but not some amazing experience I couldn't get anywhere else. My kid visited last year. I was surprised by how little had changed both for better and worse. Wooster does offer really generous merit aid for strong students with great stats, as do several other colleges on the list.

Anonymous wrote: Please stop. There are dozens of threads on this. The label is basically a well-thought-out marketing slogan for smaller schools.

People like the above poster should be ignored.

I believe Loren Pope's original idea was a noble one: put together a list of colleges that are under the radar but provide a good quality undergraduate education. I think for the most part his vision still holds.

People who claim it's just a marketing ploy are usually "USN&WR Top 20" or bust parents whao can't seem to grap the fact that you can get a quality education any other place.

I went to Lawrence and really liked it. I developed close relationships with my professors and did research that got me into 5 of the 7 PhD (biology) programs that I applied to.

It is freaking cold though.

I graduated from willamette in 2013. I had an amazing time. Gorgeous campus, excellent professors, great people, studied abroad. Not sure if it was any more life-changing than any other west coast slac would have been.

I like the idea of these schools, but when I looked some of them up, their graduation rates are quite low. Not all of them, but some of them have very low graduation rates and high tuition.

I like this approach and these small colleges in the book. I know a number of young people who went to these schools and had a great experience.

The schools allow for a pretty personal experience and often there's a thing of making the world a better place. I think a lot of kids could benefit from these schools. GL!

Anonymous wrote: Please stop. There are dozens of threads on this. The label is basically a well-thought-out marketing slogan for smaller schools.

NP: You know you don't have to read a thread. Yes, there are dozens of threads that ask about different CTCL schools--just as there are dozens of threads that ask about dozens of other schools--but a request for personal experiences yields the new personal experiences of the people who are reading/posting now. Yes, it's a marketing slogan, but the schools also share some common qualities and are reviewed independently by a non-profit and give a lens on some very good schools that are often overlooked and would otherwise be hard to differentiate from the bazillions of small colleges that are less strong.

Anonymous wrote:https://ctcl.org/

Would love to hear your personal experience if you or your kids have/are attending any of these. All colleges change lives, naturally. How was yours/your kids’ changed, either positively or negatively?

I went to Southwestern University. It is a great small school with excellent teachers and small classes next to a wonderful urban environment (Austin). Many of my classmates went on to become doctors, lawyers, and tech entrepreneurs, as well as teachers, artists, etc. I think if I had been at a bigger school, I might have gotten "lost", but I was never able to hide at SU, and consequently, I learned alot. I highly recommend it.

Please stop. There are dozens of threads on this. The label is basically a well-thought-out marketing slogan for smaller schools.

https://ctcl.org/

Would love to hear your personal experience if you or your kids have/are attending any of these. All colleges change lives, naturally. How was yours/your kids’ changed, either positively or negatively?