Anonymous
Post 05/22/2019 08:37     Subject: The very definition of "standardized" means same test/same testing conditions
Anonymous wrote:I want employees who can do the job in the alotted time. I want to know who cant before I hire them.


Then give them a work-specific task to perform within a designated amount of time as part of your hiring process. Problem solved.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2019 08:36     Subject: Re:The very definition of "standardized" means same test/same testing conditions
Anonymous wrote:LOL, you people are so angry...it is comical. So glad my ADHD kid got his deserved extra time that he needed and scored well on the ACT and got into his first choice top 20 school. As for what is done to curb the abuse, I doubt it will change much. Maybe be more careful about who gets accommodations. If you have a kid who struggled since elementary school, it is doubtful that kid is "gaming the system." I believe it is more suspect when kids suddenly in late middle school or in high school decide to get evaluated. Maybe just have more stringent requirements for evaluation for them.

But you will NEVER see the accommodations go away. Sorry, but you won't win this one...nice try though.


when Chinese take over there will be no accommodations whatsoever.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2019 08:36     Subject: Re:The very definition of "standardized" means same test/same testing conditions
Anonymous wrote:LOL, you people are so angry...it is comical. So glad my ADHD kid got his deserved extra time that he needed and scored well on the ACT and got into his first choice top 20 school. As for what is done to curb the abuse, I doubt it will change much. Maybe be more careful about who gets accommodations. If you have a kid who struggled since elementary school, it is doubtful that kid is "gaming the system." I believe it is more suspect when kids suddenly in late middle school or in high school decide to get evaluated. Maybe just have more stringent requirements for evaluation for them.

But you will NEVER see the accommodations go away. Sorry, but you won't win this one...nice try though.


Sure it will. Your kid will have a hard time in a top 20 school bc of his SN.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2019 08:35     Subject: The very definition of "standardized" means same test/same testing conditions
Anonymous wrote:
So if your child has any kind of special needs, they too deserve a lower score?

For example, if they have severe dyslexia, they should not get extra time to decipher the questions? What about a motor impairment, should they not be allowed to type when others have to write by hand?

Let's hope you and yours never have to suffer from anything that requires accommodations!


OK, so by your measure: you must agree that kids who live in inner cities, without proper nutrition, without any money for food so forget about nursery school, SN evaluations, test prepping --also deserve special scoring right?
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2019 08:34     Subject: The very definition of "standardized" means same test/same testing conditions
lets also have the test environment only have stairs
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2019 08:31     Subject: Re:The very definition of "standardized" means same test/same testing conditions
LOL, you people are so angry...it is comical. So glad my ADHD kid got his deserved extra time that he needed and scored well on the ACT and got into his first choice top 20 school. As for what is done to curb the abuse, I doubt it will change much. Maybe be more careful about who gets accommodations. If you have a kid who struggled since elementary school, it is doubtful that kid is "gaming the system." I believe it is more suspect when kids suddenly in late middle school or in high school decide to get evaluated. Maybe just have more stringent requirements for evaluation for them.

But you will NEVER see the accommodations go away. Sorry, but you won't win this one...nice try though.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2019 08:31     Subject: The very definition of "standardized" means same test/same testing conditions
Anonymous wrote:
So if your child has any kind of special needs, they too deserve a lower score?

For example, if they have severe dyslexia, they should not get extra time to decipher the questions? What about a motor impairment, should they not be allowed to type when others have to write by hand?

Let's hope you and yours never have to suffer from anything that requires accommodations!


In short, yes. They should get a lower score.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2019 08:30     Subject: Re:The very definition of "standardized" means same test/same testing conditions
Take it up with your congressional rep.
Also, read the Americans with Disabilities Act.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2019 08:29     Subject: The very definition of "standardized" means same test/same testing conditions
I want employees who can do the job in the alotted time. I want to know who cant before I hire them.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2019 08:28     Subject: The very definition of "standardized" means same test/same testing conditions
The accomodation-medical complex will fight this tooth and nail. So i wont fight that battle.

Instead I think kids who do not get extra time should indicate it on their applications.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2019 08:25     Subject: The very definition of "standardized" means same test/same testing conditions
Anonymous wrote:
So if your child has any kind of special needs, they too deserve a lower score?

For example, if they have severe dyslexia, they should not get extra time to decipher the questions? What about a motor impairment, should they not be allowed to type when others have to write by hand?

Let's hope you and yours never have to suffer from anything that requires accommodations!


What is so bad about suggestion? Why do you feel your child need to hide the extra time they are getting in a standardized test?
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2019 08:14     Subject: The very definition of "standardized" means same test/same testing conditions

So if your child has any kind of special needs, they too deserve a lower score?

For example, if they have severe dyslexia, they should not get extra time to decipher the questions? What about a motor impairment, should they not be allowed to type when others have to write by hand?

Let's hope you and yours never have to suffer from anything that requires accommodations!
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2019 08:10     Subject: The very definition of "standardized" means same test/same testing conditions
Anonymous wrote:it must be so nice to believe you know what is best not only for your child, but for all children. be grateful you don't have to deal with these issues if your child doesn't have special needs. the resentment that you have and are potentially passing onto your kids isn't helpful for anyone.


I'm sorry your child has special needs. They should take a non-SAT timed test, not the SAME standardized test, because then it's not "standardized" among test takers.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2019 08:07     Subject: The very definition of "standardized" means same test/same testing conditions
it must be so nice to believe you know what is best not only for your child, but for all children. be grateful you don't have to deal with these issues if your child doesn't have special needs. the resentment that you have and are potentially passing onto your kids isn't helpful for anyone.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2019 08:05     Subject: The very definition of "standardized" means same test/same testing conditions
If your kid has a slow processing speed they deserve a lower score. This charade will end soon. Affluent parents gaming the system so their kid can bump their 1400 to a 1500 is going to end. They have to have a non-timed test, call it something else and offer it as an addition to the traditional ACT or SAT. Call it the NTSAT (non-timed SAT) offer to anyone with a 504 or to any kid who doesn't want to take the SAT with time constraints. Let the colleges then decide then. But the colleges should KNOW who is getting more time on these tests and this seems like the only fair way. NO MORE EXTRA TIME ON SAT OR ACT FOR ANYONE