Anonymous
Post 05/20/2019 16:45     Subject: Other African American Expecting Moms
NYT recently did a series on black maternal mortality. I know someone in this story--she's a physician herself, and still felt brushed off by doctors when she was pregnant and ended up diagnosing her own life-threatening condition.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/19/magazine/black-mothers-respond-to-our-cover-story-on-maternal-mortality.html
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2019 16:44     Subject: Other African American Expecting Moms
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hi there - I'm a 33 Black mom to be and worried about delivery. I know the basics but I keep reading about Black women not being listened to in the hospital and our pain not being taken seriously.

Has anyone been through this? What happened? How did you handle?

Scared in DC


I’ll try to be nice s I try to articulate my point. Try not to see the world in black and white. No such thing as not being listened to because you are black. There are all kinds of personalities at the hospital and in life regardless of race. I am black but a first generation black and I think AA do themselves a disadvantage by always looking at the world this way. I’m not saying there aren’t ignorant people out there but at the same time that’s just people regardless of race.

NP. You need to educate yourself. Not only is there ample data of differing pain management recommendations due to race (one example: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4843483/) but this fact is well known enough that it is taught in at least some medical schools. Please stop promoting ignorance and anti-blackness.


Wow anti blackness? How is she promoting that? She simply gave her view of the world. It doesn’t have to be yours but geeez you need to chill.

What is more anti-black than responding to a legitimate concern about an observed fact by saying that her status as a black person (non-first generation as PP emphasizes) has caused her to disadvantage herself?
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2019 16:39     Subject: Other African American Expecting Moms
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hi there - I'm a 33 Black mom to be and worried about delivery. I know the basics but I keep reading about Black women not being listened to in the hospital and our pain not being taken seriously.

Has anyone been through this? What happened? How did you handle?

Scared in DC


I’ll try to be nice s I try to articulate my point. Try not to see the world in black and white. No such thing as not being listened to because you are black. There are all kinds of personalities at the hospital and in life regardless of race. I am black but a first generation black and I think AA do themselves a disadvantage by always looking at the world this way. I’m not saying there aren’t ignorant people out there but at the same time that’s just people regardless of race.

NP. You need to educate yourself. Not only is there ample data of differing pain management recommendations due to race (one example: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4843483/) but this fact is well known enough that it is taught in at least some medical schools. Please stop promoting ignorance and anti-blackness.


Wow anti blackness? How is she promoting that? She simply gave her view of the world. It doesn’t have to be yours but geeez you need to chill.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2019 16:38     Subject: Re:Other African American Expecting Moms
Can you hire a doula? Someone experienced and who can help you advocate in the hospital.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2019 16:36     Subject: Other African American Expecting Moms
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hi there - I'm a 33 Black mom to be and worried about delivery. I know the basics but I keep reading about Black women not being listened to in the hospital and our pain not being taken seriously.

Has anyone been through this? What happened? How did you handle?

Scared in DC


I’ll try to be nice s I try to articulate my point. Try not to see the world in black and white. No such thing as not being listened to because you are black. There are all kinds of personalities at the hospital and in life regardless of race. I am black but a first generation black and I think AA do themselves a disadvantage by always looking at the world this way. I’m not saying there aren’t ignorant people out there but at the same time that’s just people regardless of race.


PP: you really need to read up on this phenomenon. It is well-documented for several health conditions, but particularly childbirth. Which is why there is still a high mortality rate for middle class AA moms and babies.
—Different poster and AA mom.

OP, bring an advocate other than DH. This person’s job is to question/verify and document.


+1. I doubt that the PP was black. I'm black and 1st-gen also, and I don't think the research discriminates between AAs vs. immigrants--some forms of subtle bias apply no matter what your country of origin really is.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2019 16:35     Subject: Other African American Expecting Moms
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hi there - I'm a 33 Black mom to be and worried about delivery. I know the basics but I keep reading about Black women not being listened to in the hospital and our pain not being taken seriously.

Has anyone been through this? What happened? How did you handle?

Scared in DC


I’ll try to be nice s I try to articulate my point. Try not to see the world in black and white. No such thing as not being listened to because you are black. There are all kinds of personalities at the hospital and in life regardless of race. I am black but a first generation black and I think AA do themselves a disadvantage by always looking at the world this way. I’m not saying there aren’t ignorant people out there but at the same time that’s just people regardless of race.

NP. You need to educate yourself. Not only is there ample data of differing pain management recommendations due to race (one example: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4843483/) but this fact is well known enough that it is taught in at least some medical schools. Please stop promoting ignorance and anti-blackness.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2019 16:34     Subject: Re:Other African American Expecting Moms
Anonymous wrote:I’m white and had the same problem.


I don't doubt you at all. Now imagine if you were also black.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2019 16:32     Subject: Other African American Expecting Moms
Not AA, but white mom who came scarily close to a bad outcome and had concerns minimized.

Educate yourself, #1. Not "educate" as in hypnobabies and obsessing about your kid getting the Hep B shot (protip - get the shot!) but rather about the possible complications. Then be prepared to advocate for yourself and be very persisitant, and trust your gut. Learn especially about the signs of preeclampsia.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2019 16:29     Subject: Re:Other African American Expecting Moms
I’m white and had the same problem.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2019 16:29     Subject: Other African American Expecting Moms
OP, there are a bunch of resources here that might help you.

https://thenaabb.org/index.php/resources/
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2019 16:28     Subject: Other African American Expecting Moms
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hi there - I'm a 33 Black mom to be and worried about delivery. I know the basics but I keep reading about Black women not being listened to in the hospital and our pain not being taken seriously.

Has anyone been through this? What happened? How did you handle?

Scared in DC


I’ll try to be nice s I try to articulate my point. Try not to see the world in black and white. No such thing as not being listened to because you are black. There are all kinds of personalities at the hospital and in life regardless of race. I am black but a first generation black and I think AA do themselves a disadvantage by always looking at the world this way. I’m not saying there aren’t ignorant people out there but at the same time that’s just people regardless of race.


PP: you really need to read up on this phenomenon. It is well-documented for several health conditions, but particularly childbirth. Which is why there is still a high mortality rate for middle class AA moms and babies.
—Different poster and AA mom.

OP, bring an advocate other than DH. This person’s job is to question/verify and document.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2019 16:27     Subject: Other African American Expecting Moms
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hi there - I'm a 33 Black mom to be and worried about delivery. I know the basics but I keep reading about Black women not being listened to in the hospital and our pain not being taken seriously.

Has anyone been through this? What happened? How did you handle?

Scared in DC


I’ll try to be nice s I try to articulate my point. Try not to see the world in black and white. No such thing as not being listened to because you are black. There are all kinds of personalities at the hospital and in life regardless of race. I am black but a first generation black and I think AA do themselves a disadvantage by always looking at the world this way. I’m not saying there aren’t ignorant people out there but at the same time that’s just people regardless of race.


OMG stop PP. OP is talking about a real, studied and documented phenomenon.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2019 16:26     Subject: Other African American Expecting Moms
Have you expressed these concerns to your obstetrician?
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2019 16:24     Subject: Other African American Expecting Moms
Anonymous wrote:Hi there - I'm a 33 Black mom to be and worried about delivery. I know the basics but I keep reading about Black women not being listened to in the hospital and our pain not being taken seriously.

Has anyone been through this? What happened? How did you handle?

Scared in DC


I’ll try to be nice s I try to articulate my point. Try not to see the world in black and white. No such thing as not being listened to because you are black. There are all kinds of personalities at the hospital and in life regardless of race. I am black but a first generation black and I think AA do themselves a disadvantage by always looking at the world this way. I’m not saying there aren’t ignorant people out there but at the same time that’s just people regardless of race.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2019 16:15     Subject: Other African American Expecting Moms
Hi there - I'm a 33 Black mom to be and worried about delivery. I know the basics but I keep reading about Black women not being listened to in the hospital and our pain not being taken seriously.

Has anyone been through this? What happened? How did you handle?

Scared in DC