Anonymous wrote:I was talking about this with my husband and he just shrugged his shoulders and reminded me that when the time comes, he'll pull every connection he has to get our kids good internships and first jobs. And he has a lot of connections. He does people a lot of favors in order for them to return the favor someday.

At the end of the day, that's what matters most. More even than where you went to college or how you did there.

this is true

Anonymous wrote:If they really want to use SES, why not be accurate about it by doing away with need-blind. The adversity score is feel-good pretending.

They can't. They need or want the money. Being able to pay full freight gives you an edge and that will only increase as tuition increases to a level that is truly out of reach for all but the rich.

I was talking about this with my husband and he just shrugged his shoulders and reminded me that when the time comes, he'll pull every connection he has to get our kids good internships and first jobs. And he has a lot of connections. He does people a lot of favors in order for them to return the favor someday.

At the end of the day, that's what matters most. More even than where you went to college or how you did there.

I was talking about this with my husband and he just shrugged his shoulders and reminded me that when the time comes, he'll pull every connection he has to get our kids good internships and first jobs. And he has a lot of connections. He does people a lot of favors in order for them to return the favor someday.

At the end of the day, that's what matters most. More even than where you went to college or how you did there.

Anonymous wrote:But. It’s. Already. Happening.

It’s called data mining. Admissions offices have done it for at least a decade. You just didn’t know about it. And now they are outsourcing that work to the College Board.

And the CB is really slipshod. For example, they screwed up the International test whose scores were just released, and the curve was -30 for 1 missed math, -40 for one missed Language. Happy 1530 with 2 missed. Last June’s US SAT also had a bad curve. Tested get leaked all the time. They screw up administrations all the time. I don’t trust the college board to do this well. I trust them to do it cheap and quick. There are a lot of ways to massage the system, starting with “accidentally misbubbling” parents marital status and education and ESL status.


It’s different when different colleges look for different things, and at different data. Here, the score follows my kid to every single college. And I don’t get to know what it is or correct it if it is wrong.

Pass.

Anonymous wrote:But. It’s. Already. Happening.

It’s called data mining. Admissions offices have done it for at least a decade. You just didn’t know about it. And now they are outsourcing that work to the College Board.

They are shocked there is gambling in this establishment.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they really want to use SES, why not be accurate about it by doing away with need-blind. The adversity score is feel-good pretending.

Fewer than 50 university actually do need blind admissions.

And they are the most competitive for admission.

And you can get a great, more affordable education at many more universities than these. Broaden your horizons. It is undergrad.

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Anonymous wrote:If they really want to use SES, why not be accurate about it by doing away with need-blind. The adversity score is feel-good pretending.

Fewer than 50 university actually do need blind admissions.

And they are the most competitive for admission.

Anonymous wrote:You don't see potential issues with this? It's all sunshine and roses? Students whose true SES level is below average for their high school/zip code will have a score that does not reflect their reality.

And what of need blind admission? Is it a joke? Colleges would love to find Pell eligible applicants. Why engage in this inaccurate "score" charade and use the info from the financial aid docs?

The potential issues you’ve stated aren’t actual issues. The college board is merely providing a context for the SAT score. It is not meant to identify the student’s SES but rather the environment he lives and goes to school in. You cannot identify pell eligible applicants using this method either.

I love it. The index will merely highlight that student coming from a rough neighborhood in a low-performing school district who scores well on the SAT. It will hopefully give that student’s application a second pass.

Anonymous wrote:If they really want to use SES, why not be accurate about it by doing away with need-blind. The adversity score is feel-good pretending.

Fewer than 50 university actually do need blind admissions.

But. It’s. Already. Happening.

It’s called data mining. Admissions offices have done it for at least a decade. You just didn’t know about it. And now they are outsourcing that work to the College Board.

If they really want to use SES, why not be accurate about it by doing away with need-blind. The adversity score is feel-good pretending.

Here is what you have learned OP. College admissions in 2019 is very high stakes and stressful. And is already very, very competitive for UMC white and Asian kids from this area. You get dinked for the high COL that puts many of them in the donut hole and unable to access early decision. And dinked for coming from an area with overqualified kids. This seems like another way to make it even harder for kids from this area to get into good colleges. This is yet another thing.


I think people generally support diversity— racial, gender, SES— on college campuses. But not at the expense of their own kid being unable to access a good college education. Maybe that’s selfish, and we should all #BeBest. But, I don’t think that’s realistic.

I personally would feel a lot better about this adversity score if my kid didn’t already have to deal with donut hole and with being UMC white in the DMV. It feels like just another way to penalize my kid in the admissions process.

You don't see potential issues with this? It's all sunshine and roses? Students whose true SES level is below average for their high school/zip code will have a score that does not reflect their reality.

And what of need blind admission? Is it a joke? Colleges would love to find Pell eligible applicants. Why engage in this inaccurate "score" charade and use the info from the financial aid docs?

You all remind me of the anonymous responses that you see at the bottom of a Fox News article, where people show their true colors. Shameful.