Anonymous
05/16/2019 14:54
Subject: Reading Level @ start of AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
+1. It bugs me to no end when parents brag about their kids reading Harry Potter in K-2. It doesn’t mean anything. And frankly, it’s not appropriate in my opinion it read those books so young.
Preach! I am a reading teacher and I completely agree.
Totally agree. I confess, my kid read it in 2nd. Why? It was the "thing" to do in her second grade class. I'm sure it was started by some parent who really wanted her kid to read it early. So all the kids read it or least said they did, and so much went over their heads. Whoosh. Then they all re-read it again in 4th-5th and they got it at a whole new level and loved it. Should never have bothered with the early reading.
Anonymous
05/16/2019 14:44
Subject: Re:Reading Level @ start of AAP
I certainly don’t think a kid reading HP in K is necessarily reading at whatever level HP is considered, but let’s face it, the vast, vast majority of K’ers would not be able to read HP in any sense of the word at that age. I have one who was reading Magic Treehouse in K and one who was struggling with Bob books at that age. Anyone who reads HP at that age, even if they are not comprehending it well, is obviously a very advanced reader. Using it as eveidence of a certain reading level is ridiculous, but using it as evidence of an advanced reader is not. That said, I would never have let either of my kids read HP in K, though I found it perfectly appropriate on 2nd, which is when both my kids read the whole series.
Anonymous
05/16/2019 14:11
Subject: Reading Level @ start of AAP
Anonymous wrote:
+1. It bugs me to no end when parents brag about their kids reading Harry Potter in K-2. It doesn’t mean anything. And frankly, it’s not appropriate in my opinion it read those books so young.
Preach! I am a reading teacher and I completely agree.
Anonymous
05/16/2019 14:02
Subject: Reading Level @ start of AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS is a 2nd grader going into AAP next year. We haven't seen DRA test results since K but he's currently reading the 3rd Harry Potter. His absolutely favorites are the I Survived... books
Not sure if that can be extrapolated to DRA level.
FWIW I didn't encourage him to read Harry Potter and would have been fine with him waiting for a couple years but he found them on Amazon Freetime on his kindle.
The books kids read tell something about reading ability, but they usually far exceed DRA because when you read for pleasure you might skim over words you don't know, not realize you're not getting the sub-text, sub-plots, gist etc. and still find enjoyable parts of the story. The DRA is a rigorous measure of fluency and comprehension and kids usually perform far lower on it than you would estimate based on their reading interests. This sometimes leads people to think the scores are "wrong" but they are just careful in assessment (though that doesn't mean that some kids don't engage in the test fully or have something blocking the expression of their true reading ability for instance, ADD is an issue for skipping words/blurting out first thoughts and given that it's oral, speech delays and auditory processing can impact also.
+1. It bugs me to no end when parents brag about their kids reading Harry Potter in K-2. It doesn’t mean anything. And frankly, it’s not appropriate in my opinion it read those books so young.
Anonymous
05/16/2019 13:10
Subject: Reading Level @ start of AAP
Anonymous wrote:DS is a 2nd grader going into AAP next year. We haven't seen DRA test results since K but he's currently reading the 3rd Harry Potter. His absolutely favorites are the I Survived... books
Not sure if that can be extrapolated to DRA level.
FWIW I didn't encourage him to read Harry Potter and would have been fine with him waiting for a couple years but he found them on Amazon Freetime on his kindle.
The books kids read tell something about reading ability, but they usually far exceed DRA because when you read for pleasure you might skim over words you don't know, not realize you're not getting the sub-text, sub-plots, gist etc. and still find enjoyable parts of the story. The DRA is a rigorous measure of fluency and comprehension and kids usually perform far lower on it than you would estimate based on their reading interests. This sometimes leads people to think the scores are "wrong" but they are just careful in assessment (though that doesn't mean that some kids don't engage in the test fully or have something blocking the expression of their true reading ability for instance, ADD is an issue for skipping words/blurting out first thoughts and given that it's oral, speech delays and auditory processing can impact also.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 13:20
Subject: Reading Level @ start of AAP
DS is a 2nd grader going into AAP next year. We haven't seen DRA test results since K but he's currently reading the 3rd Harry Potter. His absolutely favorites are the I Survived... books
Not sure if that can be extrapolated to DRA level.
FWIW I didn't encourage him to read Harry Potter and would have been fine with him waiting for a couple years but he found them on Amazon Freetime on his kindle.
Not sure if that can be extrapolated to DRA level.
FWIW I didn't encourage him to read Harry Potter and would have been fine with him waiting for a couple years but he found them on Amazon Freetime on his kindle.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 13:05
Subject: Re:Reading Level @ start of AAP
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Anonymous
05/15/2019 09:33
Subject: Re:Reading Level @ start of AAP
Anonymous wrote:He was probably at 28 at the end of second.
He is now in 4th grade and above grade level. He probably was in second grade too but we didn’t know he had ADHD and was having trouble with the DRA test (skipping words, blurting out very quick answers to the questions instead of thinking and responding)
Our DD's 1st grade teacher was also a reading specialist who noticed that her initial performance on the test didn't match her observation of her abilities--she was very distracted and high energy during the 1 on 1 testing situation--so she did an experiment and allowed her to read aloud, but asked her to write all her responses rather than saying them which sounds like it would be crazy harder for a 1st grader but when she was tested this way, she hit ceiling for end of 2nd grade. Not sure what it indicates, but by 2nd grade she did the test the normal oral way and hit ceiling again.
Anonymous
05/14/2019 22:27
Subject: Re:Reading Level @ start of AAP
He was probably at 28 at the end of second.
He is now in 4th grade and above grade level. He probably was in second grade too but we didn’t know he had ADHD and was having trouble with the DRA test (skipping words, blurting out very quick answers to the questions instead of thinking and responding)
He is now in 4th grade and above grade level. He probably was in second grade too but we didn’t know he had ADHD and was having trouble with the DRA test (skipping words, blurting out very quick answers to the questions instead of thinking and responding)
Anonymous
05/14/2019 22:14
Subject: Re:Reading Level @ start of AAP
I have no idea because our teacher didn’t do them!
Anonymous
05/14/2019 22:04
Subject: Reading Level @ start of AAP
Mine came from private, so they tested her at the start of 3rd grade. Her teacher said the minimum expectation is 30, so that’s where they tested her.
Anonymous
05/14/2019 21:59
Subject: Re:Reading Level @ start of AAP
Anonymous wrote:Another precocious reader: our kid was 38 (which was ceiling--she hit ceiling in 1st grade too) and was reading chapter books prior to K. Easily the most advanced reader in her class at the base school, and seems among the top at the center also--though it's less obvious as they get older. Reading is more of a strength for her than math, though she had a 130 for the quantitative part of the Cogat and she's doing fine in the accelerated math curriculum--just nothing that stands out. I don't have specific knowledge, but my hunch is that advanced readers have an edge in AAP admissions over advanced math because it's fairly straightforward to put a kid in just accelerated math, but reading is infused in every other subject.
PP: 38 at start of 2nd grade. Don't know what was in 3rd grade.
Anonymous
05/14/2019 18:41
Subject: Re:Reading Level @ start of AAP
Another precocious reader: our kid was 38 (which was ceiling--she hit ceiling in 1st grade too) and was reading chapter books prior to K. Easily the most advanced reader in her class at the base school, and seems among the top at the center also--though it's less obvious as they get older. Reading is more of a strength for her than math, though she had a 130 for the quantitative part of the Cogat and she's doing fine in the accelerated math curriculum--just nothing that stands out. I don't have specific knowledge, but my hunch is that advanced readers have an edge in AAP admissions over advanced math because it's fairly straightforward to put a kid in just accelerated math, but reading is infused in every other subject.
Anonymous
05/14/2019 18:19
Subject: Re:Reading Level @ start of AAP
I have not seen any numbers but he is a very advanced reader and the teacher made an off the cuff remark in our parent teacher conference in October like, “well, he easily reads several years ahead of grade level.”
His AAP packet listed him at a 38, which I understand to be the max they can test to in 2nd grade.
His AAP packet listed him at a 38, which I understand to be the max they can test to in 2nd grade.
Anonymous
05/14/2019 18:11
Subject: Reading Level @ start of AAP
Parents with kids in AAP, what DRA level was your child reading at at the start of third grade AAP?