jsteele wrote:This is not really the forum for this, but I was a Political Science major as an undergrad and studied Huntington. Here is the guy you are idealizing:

But by the 1980s and ’90s, when Kobach was under his tutelage, Huntington was becoming more and more skeptical of democratic procedures, with a special skepticism reserved for equal suffrage in racially divided societies. In 1981, he gave a speech in South Africa in which he warned that the apartheid government should absolutely not give black people full suffrage, arguing instead for a “consociational” arrangement that purports to give white, black, mixed-race, and Indian South Africans autonomy over their own affairs, while preserving racial separation. Repression of revolutionary groups like the African National Congress should continue, he advised.

Two decades later, he authored Who Are We?, a book arguing that America’s Protestant culture was being eroded by Latino immigrants; the white nationalist Richard Spencer has cited the book as a key influence.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/9/17664206/kris-kobach-kansas-governor-race-racism-harvard

This is the guy you trust to tell you about Muslims.

But by the 1980s and ’90s, when Kobach was under his tutelage, Huntington was becoming more and more skeptical of democratic procedures, with a special skepticism reserved for equal suffrage in racially divided societies. In 1981, he gave a speech in South Africa in which he warned that the apartheid government should absolutely not give black people full suffrage, arguing instead for a “consociational” arrangement that purports to give white, black, mixed-race, and Indian South Africans autonomy over their own affairs, while preserving racial separation. Repression of revolutionary groups like the African National Congress should continue, he advised.

Two decades later, he authored Who Are We?, a book arguing that America’s Protestant culture was being eroded by Latino immigrants; the white nationalist Richard Spencer has cited the book as a key influence.

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jsteele wrote:I don't have time for gleeful posts about attacks on Islam that contain bigoted references to Huntington. I just don't understand that when it is possible to be Islamophobic on just about any website on the Internet, you insist on coming to this one.

Sam huntington was a tenured professor at harvard who mentored liberals like Fareed Zakaria. Since when did he cross the line at dcum?

Furthermore, the quotes were literal headlines from main-stream news sources directly out of the mouth of Macron. The yahoo news article made the title all caps and I just copied-and-pasted.

It's fair discussion.

Would be be acceptable to post without references to huntington?

jsteele wrote:I don't have time for gleeful posts about attacks on Islam that contain bigoted references to Huntington. I just don't understand that when it is possible to be Islamophobic on just about any website on the Internet, you insist on coming to this one.