Anonymous
04/09/2019 08:19
Subject: Very thought provoking quote
Anonymous wrote:I ran across this and found it gave me such pause that I decided to share it:
People who run football clubs, they think in terms of buying players. Their goal shouldn't be to buy players, their goal should be to buy wins. And in order to buy wins, you need to buy a positive goal to defense ratio. Real Madrid and Portugal see Christiano Ronaldo and they see a star who's worth seventeen million dollars a year. When I see Christiano Ronaldo, what I see is... Is... An imperfect understanding of where wins come from. The guy's got a great shot. He's a decent passer. He can do tricks. But is he worth the seventeen million dollars a year that the Real Madrid are paying him? No. No. Football thinking is medieval. They are asking all the wrong questions. And if I say it to anybody, I'm-I'm ostracized. I'm-I'm-I'm a leper. So that's why I'm-I'm cagey about this with you. If you want full disclosure, I think it might be a good thing if teams got Messi's and Ronaldo's off their payroll. I think it would up all kinds of interesting possibilities.
When you get things down to one number. Using the stats the way I read them, you can find value in players that no one else can see. People are overlooked for a variety of biased reasons and perceived flaws. Age, appearance, personality. Mathematics cut straight through that.
Look at Thomas Muller. He is one of the most underrated players in football. His defect is that he plays awkwardly. None of the pundits care about him, because he looks funny. This guy could be not just the most underrated player, but the best footballer of this current generation. World Cup, Champions League, Goal Scorer, Goal Assists, Defensive work, Team Player. This guy should cost thirty million a year. Munich got him for under five.
LOL So this person think they are better at recognizing talent vs all the clubs and managers in Europe. Sure
Anonymous
04/09/2019 08:10
Subject: Very thought provoking quote
the “quote” was too long, so I didn’t read it
Anonymous
04/09/2019 07:49
Subject: Very thought provoking quote
Anonymous wrote:Wise man say, never pay full price for late pizza
Ha!!
Anonymous
04/09/2019 07:15
Subject: Very thought provoking quote
Well I pretty clearly remember when Ambramovich bought Chelsea and then gobbled up players for record-setting fees. They became a top team quite shortly.
I agree though that men’s soccer is out of control with this crap.
I agree though that men’s soccer is out of control with this crap.
Anonymous
04/09/2019 03:18
Subject: Very thought provoking quote
Wise man say, never pay full price for late pizza
Anonymous
04/09/2019 00:39
Subject: Re:Very thought provoking quote
I guess you don’t realize that Müller is the 15th highest paid player on works and makes about $25million a year.
And if you don’t see the worth in Messi and Ronaldo then your point of view is not worth arguing as no one can convince you the world is round if you want to be a
Contrarian.
Building a club in La Liga in the bundesliga and in the premier and Italy are all different propositions and budgets.
Your point would be better made to argue Alayna in LA is not worth it, but then the ticket sales and publicity have to be factored in.
And if you don’t see the worth in Messi and Ronaldo then your point of view is not worth arguing as no one can convince you the world is round if you want to be a
Contrarian.
Building a club in La Liga in the bundesliga and in the premier and Italy are all different propositions and budgets.
Your point would be better made to argue Alayna in LA is not worth it, but then the ticket sales and publicity have to be factored in.
Anonymous
04/09/2019 00:25
Subject: Re:Very thought provoking quote
Real Madrid w/ Christiano Ronaldo won the UEFA Champions League 4 our of 5 years from 2014 to 2018. Christiano also won the European Championship with Portugal. He also won two La Liga league titles with Madrid and several EPL league titles while at Man. U. So while the quote is a nice sentiment, it is wrong, at least when it comes to top notch pro soccer, and here’s why. Soccer is a low scoring game with a lot of closely matched teams. The true difference makers become so much more valuable in these tight margin scenario. This is why difference makers such as Messi, Mbappe, C. Ronaldo, Zidane, etc. are so valuable. Can they do it alone? No, of course not. But, they are worth every penny if you want to be a champion. Btw Mueller was a great player too, but no longer is, while Messi and Christiano are still going strong. Also, Mueller is a long, lean athlete, so not sure what the quoter is talking about. Anyhow, pay the big money to the true superstar difference makers while, yes spreading the rest of the money around to a balanced team.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 22:54
Subject: Very thought provoking quote
Anonymous wrote:I ran across this and found it gave me such pause that I decided to share it:
People who run football clubs, they think in terms of buying players. Their goal shouldn't be to buy players, their goal should be to buy wins. And in order to buy wins, you need to buy a positive goal to defense ratio. Real Madrid and Portugal see Christiano Ronaldo and they see a star who's worth seventeen million dollars a year. When I see Christiano Ronaldo, what I see is... Is... An imperfect understanding of where wins come from. The guy's got a great shot. He's a decent passer. He can do tricks. But is he worth the seventeen million dollars a year that the Real Madrid are paying him? No. No. Football thinking is medieval. They are asking all the wrong questions. And if I say it to anybody, I'm-I'm ostracized. I'm-I'm-I'm a leper. So that's why I'm-I'm cagey about this with you. If you want full disclosure, I think it might be a good thing if teams got Messi's and Ronaldo's off their payroll. I think it would up all kinds of interesting possibilities.
When you get things down to one number. Using the stats the way I read them, you can find value in players that no one else can see. People are overlooked for a variety of biased reasons and perceived flaws. Age, appearance, personality. Mathematics cut straight through that.
Look at Thomas Muller. He is one of the most underrated players in football. His defect is that he plays awkwardly. None of the pundits care about him, because he looks funny. This guy could be not just the most underrated player, but the best footballer of this current generation. World Cup, Champions League, Goal Scorer, Goal Assists, Defensive work, Team Player. This guy should cost thirty million a year. Munich got him for under five.
Moneyball!
Anonymous
04/08/2019 22:14
Subject: Very thought provoking quote
I ran across this and found it gave me such pause that I decided to share it:
People who run football clubs, they think in terms of buying players. Their goal shouldn't be to buy players, their goal should be to buy wins. And in order to buy wins, you need to buy a positive goal to defense ratio. Real Madrid and Portugal see Christiano Ronaldo and they see a star who's worth seventeen million dollars a year. When I see Christiano Ronaldo, what I see is... Is... An imperfect understanding of where wins come from. The guy's got a great shot. He's a decent passer. He can do tricks. But is he worth the seventeen million dollars a year that the Real Madrid are paying him? No. No. Football thinking is medieval. They are asking all the wrong questions. And if I say it to anybody, I'm-I'm ostracized. I'm-I'm-I'm a leper. So that's why I'm-I'm cagey about this with you. If you want full disclosure, I think it might be a good thing if teams got Messi's and Ronaldo's off their payroll. I think it would up all kinds of interesting possibilities.
When you get things down to one number. Using the stats the way I read them, you can find value in players that no one else can see. People are overlooked for a variety of biased reasons and perceived flaws. Age, appearance, personality. Mathematics cut straight through that.
Look at Thomas Muller. He is one of the most underrated players in football. His defect is that he plays awkwardly. None of the pundits care about him, because he looks funny. This guy could be not just the most underrated player, but the best footballer of this current generation. World Cup, Champions League, Goal Scorer, Goal Assists, Defensive work, Team Player. This guy should cost thirty million a year. Munich got him for under five.