Anonymous wrote:Why they need to bribe? Why not just donate like everyone else does?

Well in the penn situation, it’s a function of price.

It costs about 2-4 million in giving if you want your kid in at Penn.

But bribing a coach to put a recruit tag on you can be had as low as 75-100k.

Coaches in the Ivy League are poorly paid so are ripe targets for bribes.

Anonymous wrote:
If you donate, you need millions, quite literally, more if you’re not well-known politically, academically, or corporately and you aren’t friends with people on the Board or top administrators.

The WaPo story is about people who don’t have that kind of money and had to resort to criminal behavior. Wealthier people lack ethics just as much, but don’t commit crimes

If you have $500K to commit fraud, I would argue that you are indeed wealthy.

Anonymous wrote:Anyone have a link to the other names? TMZ says one of the actresses paid 500,000 for her two daughters to be recruited to the crew team at USC, even though they didn’t row. A $500k donation could get your kids into a lot of schools.

Oh my dear. Back in the day, perhaps. Add a zero, please.

There was some at my DD’s private that got recruited to play tennis at an ivy, took a gap year, & never even joined the team when she got to campus. I wonder if it was something like this USC crew incident or the Penn basketball scandal right now.

Press conference at 1130

If you donate, you need millions, quite literally, more if you’re not well-known politically, academically, or corporately and you aren’t friends with people on the Board or top administrators.

The WaPo story is about people who don’t have that kind of money and had to resort to criminal behavior. Wealthier people lack ethics just as much, but don’t commit crimes

https://abc7news.com/actresses-ceos-charged-in-alleged-college-admissions-scam/5186103/

"Authorities say parents would pay him a predetermined amount, with full knowledge of what they were doing. He would then steer the money to one of two places: either an SAT or ACT administrator, or a college athletic coach.

The coaches would allegedly arrange a fake profile that listed the prospective student as an athlete, and exam administrators would either hire proctors to take the test or correct the answers of a student."

This is crazy stuff!

Anyone have a link to the other names? TMZ says one of the actresses paid 500,000 for her two daughters to be recruited to the crew team at USC, even though they didn’t row. A $500k donation could get your kids into a lot of schools.

Anonymous wrote:Why they need to bribe? Why not just donate like everyone else does?

That's the part that baffles. Why not just donate a wing?

From the articles, it seems Lori Loughlin paid $500K to have her daughters designated as crew recruits, even though they didn't even do crew.

What in the wat??

Why they need to bribe? Why not just donate like everyone else does?

Heh if you have to cheat to get into UCSD that's really lame.

Anonymous wrote:Actresses and chief executives are among 50 people arrested in a nationwide college admissions cheating scam, according to court records unsealed in Boston Tuesday.

Those indicted allegedly paid bribes of up to $6 million to get their children into elite colleges, including Yale, Stanford, Georgetown and the University of Southern California, federal prosecutors said.

In most cases the students did not know their admission was contingent on a bribe, officials said.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/actresses-ceos-arrested-nationwide-college-admissions-cheating-scam/story?id=61627873

I think ppl who aspire single-mindedly to the Ivy league schools have a classic correlation not causation problem. Ivy league schools serve rich, connected students whose parents smooth their path to enrollment through years of coaching, test-prep and carefully selected activities (Lacrosse, squash anyone?!). Failing that, they outright bribe their kids' way in see above and this: https://www.philly.com/college-sports/jerome-allen-penn-bribery-fraud-testimony-20190312.html). Ivy league graduates become rich, elite adults bc of their family's wealth and connections, not their college degree (correlation not causation). Smart students who think the Ivy wand will magically make them rich and connected are kidding themselves.

Actresses LoriLoughlin and FelicityHuffman among 50 people named in a nationwide college admissions cheating scam. The actresses & CEOs were among parents who paid bribes of up to $6m to get their kids into colleges, including Yale, Stanford, Georgetown & USC.
University athletic coaches and administrators of college entrance exams were also among those arrested.
The alleged scam centered around a guy in California who ran a business helping students get into the college of their choice. The coaches would arrange a fake profile that listed the prospective student as an athlete. The exam administrators would either hire proctors to take the test or correct the answers of a student.
Parents, with full knowledge of what they were doing, would pay the guy a predetermined amount. He would then steer the money to one of two places: either an SAT or ACT administrator or a college athletic coach.

Actresses and chief executives are among 50 people arrested in a nationwide college admissions cheating scam, according to court records unsealed in Boston Tuesday.

Those indicted allegedly paid bribes of up to $6 million to get their children into elite colleges, including Yale, Stanford, Georgetown and the University of Southern California, federal prosecutors said.

In most cases the students did not know their admission was contingent on a bribe, officials said.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/actresses-ceos-arrested-nationwide-college-admissions-cheating-scam/story?id=61627873

This should be interesting with big time schools involved.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/feds-uncover-massive-college-entrance-exam-cheating-plot-n982136