Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 12:07     Subject: Re:Is messiness a sign of low class?

Anonymous wrote:Actually I noticed people who have had less tend to be more careful with their worldly possessions and less messy.


Yes, the neatest people I know grew up working class or poor and now they made it, they take care of their stuff a lot better than the people who have always had stuff handed to them.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 12:06     Subject: Is messiness a sign of low class?

Anonymous wrote:To add (PP here) - I know very successful people who are slobs, but that is not very common, from what I have seen. Most of the people who are slobs are just flat out LAZY and overwhelmed.


I know a lot of successful people who are secret slobs. They may present success at work, etc. but their houses are really gross. My friend just made partner in biglaw and seems really put together...but has the most horrific bathroomI've ever seen.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 12:05     Subject: Is messiness a sign of low class?

Obsession with signs of low-class is a sign of low class.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 12:05     Subject: Re:Is messiness a sign of low class?

Actually I noticed people who have had less tend to be more careful with their worldly possessions and less messy.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 12:04     Subject: Is messiness a sign of low class?


No, it's a sign of possible mental health disorders, such as ADHD.

Two people in my family cannot organize themselves to save their lives. They both have diagnosed ADHD, one of them quite severe. I can see how their ADHD directly affects their ability to keep a tidy personal space.

Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 12:03     Subject: Is messiness a sign of low class?

To add (PP here) - I know very successful people who are slobs, but that is not very common, from what I have seen. Most of the people who are slobs are just flat out LAZY and overwhelmed.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 12:02     Subject: Is messiness a sign of low class?

Anonymous wrote:Do lower SES people live in slovenly conditions?

Is tidiness a sign of upper class?


I am not going to lie - when I see someone who doesn't know how to keep a house clean and somewhat neat, I think something went wrong in their upbringing. You don't have to have a lot of money to dust and vacuum your place, and take some pride in what you have. Your house does not need to be matchy matchy or trendy (in fact, I personally prefer a house that has original tastes within - not the cookie cutter, much overdone "Pottery Barn" look). But yeah, clean says you GAF in life and are likely not depressed.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 12:02     Subject: Is messiness a sign of low class?

No, slobs are all over the SES spectrum.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 12:02     Subject: Re:Is messiness a sign of low class?

Anonymous wrote:no, but rich people can afford to hire people to clean up their messes.


And have more room to hide messes.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 12:01     Subject: Re:Is messiness a sign of low class?

Anonymous wrote:no, but rich people can afford to hire people to clean up their messes.


This.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 12:01     Subject: Re:Is messiness a sign of low class?

Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 12:01     Subject: Is messiness a sign of low class?

No! Have you ever seen the office of David Siegel?

I think poor people just have more important things to worry about.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 12:00     Subject: Re:Is messiness a sign of low class?

no, but rich people can afford to hire people to clean up their messes.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 12:00     Subject: Is messiness a sign of low class?

No. I am a middle class mess.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 11:59     Subject: Is messiness a sign of low class?

Do lower SES people live in slovenly conditions?

Is tidiness a sign of upper class?