Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 07:32     Subject: Re:Natural FET Success

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks so much for sharing your stories and experiences. My RE doesn’t think an ERA would be helpful for me, especially in a natural cycle as each cycle is different. I had a normal RPL panel and met with several REs, a hematologist, and a high-risk OB. All seem to be in agreement that it’s just bad luck, as hard as that may be to believe. We recently switched clinics and got a good amount of PGS normal embryos from our first cycle there. We went into it expecting a lot of abnormals given my miscarriage history. I also had a saline sonogram and endometrial scratch/biopsy done this month. Both normal.

For those who may be interested, here’s how my clinic said the natural cycle will go (I’m a CCRM patient): When my period comes, I’ll go in for a suppression check to confirm things look appropriate to transfer. I’ll then return on CD 8 or 9 for another scan. Over the next 3- 10 days after that, I’ll go in for monitoring pretty frequently (possibly daily) to make sure we catch my natural ovulation. When the lead follicle is mature, I’ll trigger with HCG. Two days after that, I’ll start Estradiol, Prometrium, and Medrol. The transfer will be one week post trigger.


First PP here. Yes this sounds similar to what I did as well, including the Medrol (well I was on higher dosages of prednisone but I was actually working with an RI). I wish you the best of luck!


May I ask why your RI put you on prednisone? I have slightly elevated IgM levels at 27. While nobody has been concerned, that (plus my miscarriage history) is always in the back of my mind.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2019 14:16     Subject: Re:Natural FET Success

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks so much for sharing your stories and experiences. My RE doesn’t think an ERA would be helpful for me, especially in a natural cycle as each cycle is different. I had a normal RPL panel and met with several REs, a hematologist, and a high-risk OB. All seem to be in agreement that it’s just bad luck, as hard as that may be to believe. We recently switched clinics and got a good amount of PGS normal embryos from our first cycle there. We went into it expecting a lot of abnormals given my miscarriage history. I also had a saline sonogram and endometrial scratch/biopsy done this month. Both normal.

For those who may be interested, here’s how my clinic said the natural cycle will go (I’m a CCRM patient): When my period comes, I’ll go in for a suppression check to confirm things look appropriate to transfer. I’ll then return on CD 8 or 9 for another scan. Over the next 3- 10 days after that, I’ll go in for monitoring pretty frequently (possibly daily) to make sure we catch my natural ovulation. When the lead follicle is mature, I’ll trigger with HCG. Two days after that, I’ll start Estradiol, Prometrium, and Medrol. The transfer will be one week post trigger.


First PP here. Yes this sounds similar to what I did as well, including the Medrol (well I was on higher dosages of prednisone but I was actually working with an RI). I wish you the best of luck!
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2019 07:12     Subject: Re:Natural FET Success

OP here. Thanks so much for sharing your stories and experiences. My RE doesn’t think an ERA would be helpful for me, especially in a natural cycle as each cycle is different. I had a normal RPL panel and met with several REs, a hematologist, and a high-risk OB. All seem to be in agreement that it’s just bad luck, as hard as that may be to believe. We recently switched clinics and got a good amount of PGS normal embryos from our first cycle there. We went into it expecting a lot of abnormals given my miscarriage history. I also had a saline sonogram and endometrial scratch/biopsy done this month. Both normal.

For those who may be interested, here’s how my clinic said the natural cycle will go (I’m a CCRM patient): When my period comes, I’ll go in for a suppression check to confirm things look appropriate to transfer. I’ll then return on CD 8 or 9 for another scan. Over the next 3- 10 days after that, I’ll go in for monitoring pretty frequently (possibly daily) to make sure we catch my natural ovulation. When the lead follicle is mature, I’ll trigger with HCG. Two days after that, I’ll start Estradiol, Prometrium, and Medrol. The transfer will be one week post trigger.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2019 21:17     Subject: Re:Natural FET Success

Pp is right an ERA won’t be too helpful. I doubt a natural cycle transfer would help either since the issue is maintaining the pregnancy. When I looked into studies about natural cycle versus standard, most had to do with implantation. Maybe your RE can tell you why they think it would make a difference for preventing miscarriage. You could also look at things that contribute to recurring losses. Immune issues can be one. Low progesterone is another. There are posts on recurring loss too.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2019 16:16     Subject: Re:Natural FET Success

Anonymous wrote:Usually, the less drugs is in reference to stim drugs. If you do a fresh transfer, higher stims can affect the lining negatively.

I'd consider doing an ERA before a truly natural cycle transfer (no drugs). Also, there are different protocols for the transfers. CCRM uses daily PIO and progesterone suppositories with delestrogen. Evidence suggests that PIO is better than suppositories. Low progesterone can cause miscarriage. It doesn't sound like your RE has any reasonable basis for suggesting natural cycle, but just that he/she doesn't know exactly why the prior transfers didn't work.


I am the first PP. Even in natural FETs, progesterone is used, be it PIO or suppositories. I think the natural vs. medicated has more to do with waiting for your natural surge vs starting with some sort of suppressant like Lupron. That said I agree that an ERA can't hurt... although OP is achieving implantation...

OP maybe you should consider an immunologist.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2019 13:03     Subject: Re:Natural FET Success

Usually, the less drugs is in reference to stim drugs. If you do a fresh transfer, higher stims can affect the lining negatively.

I'd consider doing an ERA before a truly natural cycle transfer (no drugs). Also, there are different protocols for the transfers. CCRM uses daily PIO and progesterone suppositories with delestrogen. Evidence suggests that PIO is better than suppositories. Low progesterone can cause miscarriage. It doesn't sound like your RE has any reasonable basis for suggesting natural cycle, but just that he/she doesn't know exactly why the prior transfers didn't work.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2019 12:36     Subject: Re:Natural FET Success

I did better with a natural FET and conceived my DS. Prior to the natural one, I did a medicated one which did not work for me. From my own research they have about the same success rate... anecdotally I have heard that natural may be slightly more successful.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2019 10:00     Subject: Natural FET Success

Looking to see if anyone has done a natural FET, and if you have any advice, have had better success, any words of wisdom etc.

Quick background - I am in the unexplained category. Got pregnant 3 times through IVF but sadly miscarried each time. My new RE said some women do better with less drugs, so I’m willing to give it a try. We're transferring PGS normal embryos this time around (the miscarriages happened with an untested batch, though we know at least one was normal due to D&C findings).

Thanks in advance. I appreciate you all very much.