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Anonymous wrote:Science backs the notion of gender fluidity and being transgender. I have posted the links on threads like this ad nauseam, but people dismiss these insights and studies or choose not to read them. I am over trying to get people to try to be rational instead of indulging their prejudices and fear.

OP. If family is using "him," use it.It doesn't hurt you in any way, so go along to get along. Be a considerate person.

Science backs biological male and female, science doesn’t back random thoughts of your gender identity.

Not sure what you mean by "random thoughts". But here's a research link: https://www.sciencealert.com/brain-gender-is-more-fluid-than-originally-thought-research-reveals

Here's a question: Is it possible than chemicals in our environment are increasing the number of people whose inner experience (their brain) conflicts with their anatomy (not talking about intersex conditions here, which clearly demonstrate that sexual dimorphism isn't absolute, specifically if we consider intersex conditions in which the sex chromosomes are XX or XY as opposed to other combinations of X's and Y's)?

The brain does not produce eggs or sperm even in cisgender people.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t embrace mental illness. If I told you that I’m an Asian woman when I’m really a white man, call me a white man.

Facts over feelings.
Truth over fiction

Pretty rich, coming from someone who clearly backs the party of propaganda and lies (the lies are required to sell the tax cuts for the wealthy.)

I agree with the PP, and my voting record shows two votes for Obama, one for Hillary, one for Jesse Jackson, one for Ralph Nader, one for Michael Dukakis, one for John Kerry, and to for Bill Clinton. And I'm bisexual.

Or you just think you’re bisexual when you’re actually a mentally ill heterosexual. See how that works?

NP here. Apples and oranges.
Sexual orientation is about thoughts and feelings that exist in your mind. That is all it requires, whether others “agree” with it or not. Just as I don’t doubt that gays and lesbians are feeling what they feel, I don’t doubt that transgender individuals are feeling what they feel. I do not the validity of others thoughts or feelings. But I also reside in a physical world with physical realities, and one with little evidence that -being- male or female is dependent upon one’s thoughts and feelings.

This post right here from this most recent PP is very well reasoned. I am pro supporting every person who wants to live his/her life the way he/she sees fit. But biology is real. Physiology is real. You can ask me to refer to you as your new name and I will do that. You can love who you want and wear what you want... and I will respect and support your desire to do that.

But male/female markers are not based on feelings. They are based on set scientific characteristics that are biological and physiological. And being "assigned" a gender (boy/girl) at birth (or in the womb--hello, "gender reveal" parties!) is based upon those characteristics. It is not separate from them. It is literally WHY you are called a boy or girl. I think it's very bizarre to accept that what one does, says, or feels has any bearing on determining ones gender. If I feel like a 20-year-old it does not make me 20 years old. But if I want to act younger and dress how I think a 20-year-old might want to dress and speak how I think a 20-year-old might speak (which are all stereotypes, btw), that doesn't mean I *am* 20 years old and those who refuse to acknowledge that I am 20 are age-phobic!

Anonymous wrote:Science backs the notion of gender fluidity and being transgender. I have posted the links on threads like this ad nauseam, but people dismiss these insights and studies or choose not to read them. I am over trying to get people to try to be rational instead of indulging their prejudices and fear.

OP. If family is using "him," use it.It doesn't hurt you in any way, so go along to get along. Be a considerate person.

Science backs biological male and female, science doesn’t back random thoughts of your gender identity.

I wouldn’t make that assumption. I also wouldn’t conflate being skeptical of certain aspects of transgender theory with being pro-Trump. Is the earth flat because I believe it is so?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t embrace mental illness. If I told you that I’m an Asian woman when I’m really a white man, call me a white man.

Facts over feelings.
Truth over fiction

Pretty rich, coming from someone who clearly backs the party of propaganda and lies (the lies are required to sell the tax cuts for the wealthy.)

THIS kind of attitude held by liberals is WHY TRUMP WON.

Trump won because of the electoral college, not because a plurality of people believe his worldview. Trump also won because many people are scared of how quickly culture is changing and they can't get on board with it. History shows us these dying gasps over and over again. One last big fight before the old world passes into the new.

Science backs the notion of gender fluidity and being transgender. I have posted the links on threads like this ad nauseam, but people dismiss these insights and studies or choose not to read them. I am over trying to get people to try to be rational instead of indulging their prejudices and fear.

OP. If family is using "him," use it.It doesn't hurt you in any way, so go along to get along. Be a considerate person.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t embrace mental illness. If I told you that I’m an Asian woman when I’m really a white man, call me a white man.

Facts over feelings.
Truth over fiction

Pretty rich, coming from someone who clearly backs the party of propaganda and lies (the lies are required to sell the tax cuts for the wealthy.)

THIS kind of attitude held by liberals is WHY TRUMP WON.

Edited- I do not question the validity of others thoughts and feelings.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t embrace mental illness. If I told you that I’m an Asian woman when I’m really a white man, call me a white man.

Facts over feelings.
Truth over fiction

Pretty rich, coming from someone who clearly backs the party of propaganda and lies (the lies are required to sell the tax cuts for the wealthy.)

I agree with the PP, and my voting record shows two votes for Obama, one for Hillary, one for Jesse Jackson, one for Ralph Nader, one for Michael Dukakis, one for John Kerry, and to for Bill Clinton. And I'm bisexual.

Or you just think you’re bisexual when you’re actually a mentally ill heterosexual. See how that works?

NP here. Apples and oranges.
Sexual orientation is about thoughts and feelings that exist in your mind. That is all it requires, whether others “agree” with it or not. Just as I don’t doubt that gays and lesbians are feeling what they feel, I don’t doubt that transgender individuals are feeling what they feel. I do not the validity of others thoughts or feelings. But I also reside in a physical world with physical realities, and one with little evidence that -being- male or female is dependent upon one’s thoughts and feelings.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t embrace mental illness. If I told you that I’m an Asian woman when I’m really a white man, call me a white man.

Facts over feelings.
Truth over fiction

Pretty rich, coming from someone who clearly backs the party of propaganda and lies (the lies are required to sell the tax cuts for the wealthy.)

I agree with the PP, and my voting record shows two votes for Obama, one for Hillary, one for Jesse Jackson, one for Ralph Nader, one for Michael Dukakis, one for John Kerry, and to for Bill Clinton. And I'm bisexual.

Or you just think you’re bisexual when you’re actually a mentally ill heterosexual. See how that works?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t embrace mental illness. If I told you that I’m an Asian woman when I’m really a white man, call me a white man.

Facts over feelings.
Truth over fiction

Pretty rich, coming from someone who clearly backs the party of propaganda and lies (the lies are required to sell the tax cuts for the wealthy.)

I agree with the PP, and my voting record shows two votes for Obama, one for Hillary, one for Jesse Jackson, one for Ralph Nader, one for Michael Dukakis, one for John Kerry, and to for Bill Clinton. And I'm bisexual.

Anonymous wrote:Don’t embrace mental illness. If I told you that I’m an Asian woman when I’m really a white man, call me a white man.

Facts over feelings.
Truth over fiction

Pretty rich, coming from someone who clearly backs the party of propaganda and lies (the lies are required to sell the tax cuts for the wealthy.)

If they refer to their child as a boy now, so should you.

Pretty good chance the kid will go back to being a girl at some point.

Just refer to the kid as he if you need to.

We are friends with the parents of one of our son's friends. Besides my son's friend, who is a boy, there is a teenaged girl (let's call her A) in the family who I believe is now living as a boy. A has changed her appearance to be more boyish and the mom refers to A as "he" on Facebook and posts about her 2 boys. Do I acknowledge this change? Just switch pronouns? The parents have never said anything to us about A being transgender, and I don't want to assume. I also don't want to pry.