Anonymous
Post 02/05/2019 14:54     Subject: Trump voters getting tax shock and regretting their votes
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if folks are seeing an actual increase in total taxes paid or just an increased bill (or decreased refund). I.e., is it possible their checks were higher all year and now they're getting hit with a higher bill and thinking their taxes are higher?


Doesn't matter, the GOP already lost the messaging battle. No one like to cut a check for $4-5K because the withholding tables were f#cked up by Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell.

The vast majority of Americans - especially Red State Republicans - can't budget for that kind of fiscal shock, sadly.


Most of these regretful voters are more than likely living in blue states. But it's hard to feel that sorry for them. They voted for a crooked businessman and got shafted.


Some, but not all. TX has very high property taxes to make up for the lack of income tax. UMC people with valuable homes in TX are certainly getting burned. So are UMC people in states where the property + income taxes exceed $10K. That's a lot of doctors, lawyers, and accountants in Red States.

Like said, everyone is getting sticker shock. 98% of people would prefer to have the proper withholdings throughout the year, instead of having to cut a big check in April. It was a fake tax cut.

Florida is another state with high property taxes.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2019 14:53     Subject: Trump voters getting tax shock and regretting their votes
Anonymous wrote:Are the tables being adjusted this year?


They are finalized, so I would think employers should be implementing them properly for 2019.

I guess our paychecks will decrease in 2019?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2019 14:52     Subject: Trump voters getting tax shock and regretting their votes
Why didn't they figure it out earlier? We ran the withholding calculator and adjusted accordingly last year.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2019 14:41     Subject: Trump voters getting tax shock and regretting their votes
Are the tables being adjusted this year?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2019 13:44     Subject: Trump voters getting tax shock and regretting their votes
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if folks are seeing an actual increase in total taxes paid or just an increased bill (or decreased refund). I.e., is it possible their checks were higher all year and now they're getting hit with a higher bill and thinking their taxes are higher?


Doesn't matter, the GOP already lost the messaging battle. No one like to cut a check for $4-5K because the withholding tables were f#cked up by Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell.

The vast majority of Americans - especially Red State Republicans - can't budget for that kind of fiscal shock, sadly.


Most of these regretful voters are more than likely living in blue states. But it's hard to feel that sorry for them. They voted for a crooked businessman and got shafted.


Some, but not all. TX has very high property taxes to make up for the lack of income tax. UMC people with valuable homes in TX are certainly getting burned. So are UMC people in states where the property + income taxes exceed $10K. That's a lot of doctors, lawyers, and accountants in Red States.

Like said, everyone is getting sticker shock. 98% of people would prefer to have the proper withholdings throughout the year, instead of having to cut a big check in April. It was a fake tax cut.

Let me clarify... I don't feel sorry for these regretful Trump voters who are now getting sticker shock.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2019 13:41     Subject: Trump voters getting tax shock and regretting their votes
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if folks are seeing an actual increase in total taxes paid or just an increased bill (or decreased refund). I.e., is it possible their checks were higher all year and now they're getting hit with a higher bill and thinking their taxes are higher?


Doesn't matter, the GOP already lost the messaging battle. No one like to cut a check for $4-5K because the withholding tables were f#cked up by Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell.

The vast majority of Americans - especially Red State Republicans - can't budget for that kind of fiscal shock, sadly.


Well yes, it had been pointed out that the withholding tables were underestimating the tax burden of many Americans months ago. But guess which party didn't want to fix the tables until after the mid-term elections? [Hint-it was the one that lost anyway.]
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2019 13:39     Subject: Trump voters getting tax shock and regretting their votes
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if folks are seeing an actual increase in total taxes paid or just an increased bill (or decreased refund). I.e., is it possible their checks were higher all year and now they're getting hit with a higher bill and thinking their taxes are higher?


Doesn't matter, the GOP already lost the messaging battle. No one like to cut a check for $4-5K because the withholding tables were f#cked up by Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell.

The vast majority of Americans - especially Red State Republicans - can't budget for that kind of fiscal shock, sadly.


Most of these regretful voters are more than likely living in blue states. But it's hard to feel that sorry for them. They voted for a crooked businessman and got shafted.


Some, but not all. TX has very high property taxes to make up for the lack of income tax. UMC people with valuable homes in TX are certainly getting burned. So are UMC people in states where the property + income taxes exceed $10K. That's a lot of doctors, lawyers, and accountants in Red States.

Like said, everyone is getting sticker shock. 98% of people would prefer to have the proper withholdings throughout the year, instead of having to cut a big check in April. It was a fake tax cut.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2019 13:34     Subject: Trump voters getting tax shock and regretting their votes
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if folks are seeing an actual increase in total taxes paid or just an increased bill (or decreased refund). I.e., is it possible their checks were higher all year and now they're getting hit with a higher bill and thinking their taxes are higher?


Doesn't matter, the GOP already lost the messaging battle. No one like to cut a check for $4-5K because the withholding tables were f#cked up by Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell.

The vast majority of Americans - especially Red State Republicans - can't budget for that kind of fiscal shock, sadly.

Most of these regretful voters are more than likely living in blue states. But it's hard to feel that sorry for them. They voted for a crooked businessman and got shafted.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2019 13:29     Subject: Trump voters getting tax shock and regretting their votes
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if folks are seeing an actual increase in total taxes paid or just an increased bill (or decreased refund). I.e., is it possible their checks were higher all year and now they're getting hit with a higher bill and thinking their taxes are higher?


Doesn't matter, the GOP already lost the messaging battle. No one like to cut a check for $4-5K because the withholding tables were f#cked up by Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell.

The vast majority of Americans - especially Red State Republicans - can't budget for that kind of fiscal shock, sadly.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2019 13:28     Subject: Re:Trump voters getting tax shock and regretting their votes
Elections have consequences. People need to pay attention to pocketbook issues, and not just get riled up by social wedge issues.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2019 13:24     Subject: Trump voters getting tax shock and regretting their votes
aww does Faux news have anything to say about this?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2019 13:24     Subject: Trump voters getting tax shock and regretting their votes
I wonder if folks are seeing an actual increase in total taxes paid or just an increased bill (or decreased refund). I.e., is it possible their checks were higher all year and now they're getting hit with a higher bill and thinking their taxes are higher?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2019 13:22     Subject: Trump voters getting tax shock and regretting their votes
Isn't that why Rs lost many of their House districts in 2018?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2019 13:21     Subject: Trump voters getting tax shock and regretting their votes
You can see more in the "Money and Finance" section of the DCUM forum.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2019 13:17     Subject: Trump voters getting tax shock and regretting their votes
Caveat emptor - these tweets from Trump voters who are now socked with higher tax bills and are mad at him are just too rich. Expect more disgruntled voters in the coming weeks and months as the full effects of the tax scam bill become apparent as people fill out their taxes. And it's not just blue state voters who are getting higher bills.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/trusted-trump-voters-seethe-realizing-theyre-getting-screwed-gops-tax-plan/?fbclid=IwAR0LvuCUoU82Zwnc8RpboVVSAyhabTe4EX7brRo__T1N0z6b58qHJHvCTio