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Anonymous wrote:Nannies, cleaning ladies, and tutors are not "your" employees. They typically work for a nanny service, cleaning company like merry maids, etc. and you are just the customer.

I work in sales, that's like asking why one of my many clients at work aren't asking for paid leave for me.

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I'm not their employer.

As a customer, the best I can do is try to vet that the company that I am a client of treats their employees well (which I do).

Many people hire nannies and cleaning ladies directly. But even if they hire through a company, the person still does work for them. The fact that they receive a paycheck are from someone else is just matter of accounting.

It's just so very interesting that people believe that their company has a moral obligation to pay them maternity leave benefits but then they turn around and deny maternity pay to people who work for them..

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nannies, cleaning ladies, and tutors are not "your" employees. They typically work for a nanny service, cleaning company like merry maids, etc. and you are just the customer.

I work in sales, that's like asking why one of my many clients at work aren't asking for paid leave for me.

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I'm not their employer.

As a customer, the best I can do is try to vet that the company that I am a client of treats their employees well (which I do).

Many people hire nannies and cleaning ladies directly. But even if they hire through a company, the person still does work for them. The fact that they receive a paycheck are from someone else is just matter of accounting.

It's just so very interesting that people believe that their company has a moral obligation to pay them maternity leave benefits but then they turn around and deny maternity pay to people who work for them..

You're being intentionally obtuse.

Anonymous wrote:Unions! I had three months paid leave, but only because I was in a union.

No paid maternity leave and I'm in a union.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nannies, cleaning ladies, and tutors are not "your" employees. They typically work for a nanny service, cleaning company like merry maids, etc. and you are just the customer.

I work in sales, that's like asking why one of my many clients at work aren't asking for paid leave for me.

+1


I'm not their employer.

As a customer, the best I can do is try to vet that the company that I am a client of treats their employees well (which I do).

Many people hire nannies and cleaning ladies directly. But even if they hire through a company, the person still does work for them. The fact that they receive a paycheck are from someone else is just matter of accounting.

It's just so very interesting that people believe that their company has a moral obligation to pay them maternity leave benefits but then they turn around and deny maternity pay to people who work for them..

Anonymous wrote:While reading the other maternity benefits topic about why women in US are not fighting for paid maternity leave and such...

Many women said they are not fighting because they are not CEOs, they only have one vote, they have no power, etc.

But how about your own employees? How common is it to pay maternity leave for nannies? Cleaning ladies? Tutors?
You have all the power to make that decision, right? Theoretically you can continue paying your tutors, cleaning lady, etc for first 12 weeks after she gave birth.

How many of you do it?

And if you don't, do you have the moral right to demand benefits from your employer that you deny your own employees?

I have never been in that position before. I have a cleaning lady who comes twice a month and she is beyond childbearing years, so it hasn't come up. My child goes to a daycare that has a 12 week maternity leave policy for their employees. This came up because my child's primary teacher had a baby last year and was out for 12 weeks. Because I am not her employer, all I did was buy a gift.

I think that your assumption that people have multiple household employees is pretty clueless, as was the other post asking what random working moms are doing to advance the wellbeing of mothers in general.

Anonymous wrote:It should not even be a debate. It should be a standard benefit like short term disability.

Now clearly, not everyone is eligible for short term disability. But if your company has STD, you should have paid time to recover from child birth. I had a 4th degree tear, there was NO way I could have gone to work for at least 6 weeks.

So it should be just like a short term disability coverage where you are paid for 6-8 weeks post birth.

I was lucky that my company's short term disability DID cover 5 weeks of leave for me. But that is very clearly the exception and not the rule.

So my question is would YOU buy short term disability insurance for your employees? Or would you pay them if they needed to be on short term disability?

Unions! I had three months paid leave, but only because I was in a union.

It should not even be a debate. It should be a standard benefit like short term disability.

Now clearly, not everyone is eligible for short term disability. But if your company has STD, you should have paid time to recover from child birth. I had a 4th degree tear, there was NO way I could have gone to work for at least 6 weeks.

So it should be just like a short term disability coverage where you are paid for 6-8 weeks post birth.

I was lucky that my company's short term disability DID cover 5 weeks of leave for me. But that is very clearly the exception and not the rule.

Most nanny agencies, home daycares, and daycare centers give their employees a certain number of paid vacation days plus federal holidays (or school holidays, depending on their calendar). Those are clearly spelled out in the contract.

Anonymous wrote:Nannies, cleaning ladies, and tutors are not "your" employees. They typically work for a nanny service, cleaning company like merry maids, etc. and you are just the customer.

I work in sales, that's like asking why one of my many clients at work aren't asking for paid leave for me.

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I'm not their employer.

As a customer, the best I can do is try to vet that the company that I am a client of treats their employees well (which I do).

My nanny is too old to have children. But I do give her a paid 3 weeks a year. She has quite a bit of family drama and I never second guess when she needs time off. She will go out of her way to find me a backup nanny if it's very last minute.

I'm a fed with no maternity leave, but I do get 4 weeks of annual leave a year. My boss nit picks my leave like crazy and I wouldn't do that to someone else. Most of my recent maternity leave was unpaid, but they also didn't hire someone else to fill my spot. When I returned I had work piled sky high on my desk. So technically you could argue they basically got a benefit from me taking leave. They didn't have to pay me and still got nearly the same amount of work done.

Anonymous wrote:While reading the other maternity benefits topic about why women in US are not fighting for paid maternity leave and such...

Many women said they are not fighting because they are not CEOs, they only have one vote, they have no power, etc.

But how about your own employees? How common is it to pay maternity leave for nannies? Cleaning ladies? Tutors?
You have all the power to make that decision, right? Theoretically you can continue paying your tutors, cleaning lady, etc for first 12 weeks after she gave birth.

How many of you do it?

And if you don't, do you have the moral right to demand benefits from your employer that you deny your own employees?

Are there THAT many people that have their own employees? Sometimes this board makes me feel very poor!
Our DD is in daycare. We can't afford a cleaning lady - I handle all that work myself. Our daycare does provide some coverage for maternity leave. Nearly identical to what I was given at my very white-collar job, actually.

Nannies, cleaning ladies, and tutors are not "your" employees. They typically work for a nanny service, cleaning company like merry maids, etc. and you are just the customer.

I work in sales, that's like asking why one of my many clients at work aren't asking for paid leave for me.

I'd rather get paid more and manage my time myself

While reading the other maternity benefits topic about why women in US are not fighting for paid maternity leave and such...

Many women said they are not fighting because they are not CEOs, they only have one vote, they have no power, etc.

But how about your own employees? How common is it to pay maternity leave for nannies? Cleaning ladies? Tutors?
You have all the power to make that decision, right? Theoretically you can continue paying your tutors, cleaning lady, etc for first 12 weeks after she gave birth.

How many of you do it?

And if you don't, do you have the moral right to demand benefits from your employer that you deny your own employees?