Anonymous
Post 01/23/2019 17:59     Subject: Donor child after biological child

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mom from DE here. Re the issue of being open - I just want to advocate for not trying to keep the secret. I totally agree about telling your child, without shame but in celebration of how much your child was wanted.

Don't tell your child but tell the child he/she can't talk about it - that screams of shame and will diminish any message of love you attach to it.

Deal with the family/friends who are going to potentially be an issue LONG before you child is old enough to be aware. Handle it so she/he doesn't have to.

I wholeheartedly agree with talking these issues through w/ a counselor who has experience with DE, blended families, adoption, fertility struggles, etc... It was profoundly helpful for me and my husband.

Good luck!


I find this discussion very helpful, but the bolded part is completely naive and unrealistic. My MIL is in her 70s, devoutly catholic, from a latin culture. Loves making a soap opera out of anything. Catholic church forbids IVF even with own eggs. How am I supposed to deal? Tell her FU and your religion? Convince DH to become estranged from her? Never give her a chance to talk to the child? Wait for her to die before having children?


My dad is catholic (Irish) and is generally opposed to IVF. BUT he didn't interfere or have anything negative to say about me doing DE. He's been supportive and is excited to have another grandchild. I definitely wouldn't have been able to tackle the conversation with an in-law myself, but maybe your DH would be better able to? And maybe your MIL would feel differently if she knew it meant the difference between another grandchild or not? After all, it would be your "sin" for doing IVF, not hers or the child's (or you could tell her you'd use all the embryos to make her feel better?). Sorry that you have to deal with that, but glad you're considering how it affects things.

Anonymous
Post 01/23/2019 17:28     Subject: Donor child after biological child

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mom from DE here. Re the issue of being open - I just want to advocate for not trying to keep the secret. I totally agree about telling your child, without shame but in celebration of how much your child was wanted.

Don't tell your child but tell the child he/she can't talk about it - that screams of shame and will diminish any message of love you attach to it.

Deal with the family/friends who are going to potentially be an issue LONG before you child is old enough to be aware. Handle it so she/he doesn't have to.

I wholeheartedly agree with talking these issues through w/ a counselor who has experience with DE, blended families, adoption, fertility struggles, etc... It was profoundly helpful for me and my husband.

Good luck!


I find this discussion very helpful, but the bolded part is completely naive and unrealistic. My MIL is in her 70s, devoutly catholic, from a latin culture. Loves making a soap opera out of anything. Catholic church forbids IVF even with own eggs. How am I supposed to deal? Tell her FU and your religion? Convince DH to become estranged from her? Never give her a chance to talk to the child? Wait for her to die before having children?

Your MIL lived her life and had her children. No one knows what she would have done had she encountered infertility. Do you really want her attitude to influence such an important life decision as having your own child? If she chooses to become estranged over this then that's the choice she's making.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2019 17:09     Subject: Donor child after biological child

Anonymous wrote:Mom from DE here. Re the issue of being open - I just want to advocate for not trying to keep the secret. I totally agree about telling your child, without shame but in celebration of how much your child was wanted.

Don't tell your child but tell the child he/she can't talk about it - that screams of shame and will diminish any message of love you attach to it.

Deal with the family/friends who are going to potentially be an issue LONG before you child is old enough to be aware. Handle it so she/he doesn't have to.

I wholeheartedly agree with talking these issues through w/ a counselor who has experience with DE, blended families, adoption, fertility struggles, etc... It was profoundly helpful for me and my husband.

Good luck!


I find this discussion very helpful, but the bolded part is completely naive and unrealistic. My MIL is in her 70s, devoutly catholic, from a latin culture. Loves making a soap opera out of anything. Catholic church forbids IVF even with own eggs. How am I supposed to deal? Tell her FU and your religion? Convince DH to become estranged from her? Never give her a chance to talk to the child? Wait for her to die before having children?
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2019 13:45     Subject: Donor child after biological child

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mom from DE here. Re the issue of being open - I just want to advocate for not trying to keep the secret. I totally agree about telling your child, without shame but in celebration of how much your child was wanted.

Don't tell your child but tell the child he/she can't talk about it - that screams of shame and will diminish any message of love you attach to it.

Deal with the family/friends who are going to potentially be an issue LONG before you child is old enough to be aware. Handle it so she/he doesn't have to.

I wholeheartedly agree with talking these issues through w/ a counselor who has experience with DE, blended families, adoption, fertility struggles, etc... It was profoundly helpful for me and my husband.

Good luck!


I don't agree that everything you want to keep private or not tell others is shameful. Pregnancy, atheism, death, Santa is pretend are things I've talked to my child about where we discussed not telling others certain things ever or for limited periods of time (including other family members). In the example, shame is a real issue, but it doesn't have to be the case. In the end the info is really the DE child's, but trying to protect it's privacy until they have a better understanding and can make a clearer decision for themselves isn't bad. But you also couldn't use any sort of punishment or get mad at a young child for not keeping it private, so you need to be prepared for the fact that they might say something.


PP you're responding to. I agree that privacy doesn't equal shame. However, to tell a child that he/she needs to keep secret how he/she was conceived is a pretty mixed signal. I would never put my child in the position of feeling like anything about how they were conceived is somehow too problematic to talk about. That is a very different kind of thing to keep private than whether or not Santa is real.



Anonymous
Post 01/23/2019 10:35     Subject: Donor child after biological child

Anonymous wrote:Mom from DE here. Re the issue of being open - I just want to advocate for not trying to keep the secret. I totally agree about telling your child, without shame but in celebration of how much your child was wanted.

Don't tell your child but tell the child he/she can't talk about it - that screams of shame and will diminish any message of love you attach to it.

Deal with the family/friends who are going to potentially be an issue LONG before you child is old enough to be aware. Handle it so she/he doesn't have to.

I wholeheartedly agree with talking these issues through w/ a counselor who has experience with DE, blended families, adoption, fertility struggles, etc... It was profoundly helpful for me and my husband.

Good luck!


I don't agree that everything you want to keep private or not tell others is shameful. Pregnancy, atheism, death, Santa is pretend are things I've talked to my child about where we discussed not telling others certain things ever or for limited periods of time (including other family members). In the example, shame is a real issue, but it doesn't have to be the case. In the end the info is really the DE child's, but trying to protect it's privacy until they have a better understanding and can make a clearer decision for themselves isn't bad. But you also couldn't use any sort of punishment or get mad at a young child for not keeping it private, so you need to be prepared for the fact that they might say something.




Anonymous
Post 01/22/2019 10:17     Subject: Donor child after biological child

My second is a DE baby.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2019 10:00     Subject: Donor child after biological child

You don’t have to tell DE children “early and often”. It’s just a recommendation. It’s your family’s decision. Read up on the early and often results in adoption. Not always positive. And sibling rivalry is real and poisonous even with bio children.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2019 09:41     Subject: Donor child after biological child

Mom from DE here. Re the issue of being open - I just want to advocate for not trying to keep the secret. I totally agree about telling your child, without shame but in celebration of how much your child was wanted.

Don't tell your child but tell the child he/she can't talk about it - that screams of shame and will diminish any message of love you attach to it.

Deal with the family/friends who are going to potentially be an issue LONG before you child is old enough to be aware. Handle it so she/he doesn't have to.

I wholeheartedly agree with talking these issues through w/ a counselor who has experience with DE, blended families, adoption, fertility struggles, etc... It was profoundly helpful for me and my husband.

Good luck!
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2019 09:36     Subject: Re:Donor child after biological child

Talk to a counselor. It's not an unreasonable concern. Kids say lots of things, so they could say something to family even if you've explained to them that there are private things that are talked about with parents and not others, even other family members. I definitely feel lucky that our families are supportive. We've had to establish boundaries in the past on other parenting fronts, so I think my family knows that they wouldn't be welcome (on any level) to be disrespectful of our decisions and certainly not insulting to our kids and family. In the end, all kids will need to learn that people can be mean if they think someone is different in some way, and learn how to have their own sense of self that isn't so dependent on what others think. It's not something a 3 or 4 year old will be able to do well, and having family be the source of negativity makes it even more difficult. A counselor could help you see how you might navigate that, and then you can decide if it's something that's right for you and your kids.

Sometimes people have beliefs bc they don't know anything different and then can be open minded if they have to face something different in the context of those they care about. Of course, that's not always the case.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2019 22:12     Subject: Re:Donor child after biological child

Anonymous wrote:Am 5 months with a DE baby. First was not DE. Whole family is SO excited and happy.

I'm assuming you're capable of loving someone not genetically related to you, so that's not an issue. Otherwise here are things that I thought about (either on my own or had heard elsewhere) that are specific to having 1 DE and 1 OE (not DE issues generally).
1. Jealous of husband for being genetically related to the DE child. Non-issue for me.
2. First child is mean to your DE child for not being a full sibling. Not a real issue - first is very caring. Could it happen that they'd fight and the first would low? Yes, but it would be an anomaly and we'd deal with it appropriately.
3. DE child feels bad for being DE. We won't be giving them a reason to. We're not sharing our personal info with the world, but will be open early on and have been open with close family, who is also supportive. Teens in particular are known for finding things to feel crappy about, so it is very possible that this comes up. However, if it wasn't this in particular, it would be something else, to the extent the child is prone to depression, low self-esteem, etc. (which, of course we'd do our best to avoid and would deal with appropriately if it came up). I don't see that DE alone, would cause this, if we don't treat it like something to be ashamed of.
4. Other family members have issues/jealousy with the DE child looking into possible 1/2 siblings and or wanting info about the donor (if it happens, and it probably will - esp. 1/2 siblings). I feel pretty confident that neither I nor DH will take issue with this and I plan to be supportive. Can't tell what first child would think at this point, but since we plan to be supportive, I'd expect that will shape what the first child thinks, too.

I recommend talking to a counselor specializing in DE. We talked to Ellen Glazer. DE was great for us, but there are a lot of things to think about in the process.


PP, thank you for sharing. Question: I would love to be honest with the child from early on at the age-appropriate level of detail, however, I do not wish to share with DH's family or mine or any of our friends. Particularly with families, due to cultural/religious issues, I feel the child will be judged and made feel less than. How would one navigate that? I don't want to teach the child keeping secrets from early on, but I wouldn't want to have our private information blabbered out... What to do?
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2019 15:50     Subject: Re:Donor child after biological child

Do a search--this has been discussed a lot here. I did and I love him the same as me OE kid.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2019 15:36     Subject: Re:Donor child after biological child

Am 5 months with a DE baby. First was not DE. Whole family is SO excited and happy.

I'm assuming you're capable of loving someone not genetically related to you, so that's not an issue. Otherwise here are things that I thought about (either on my own or had heard elsewhere) that are specific to having 1 DE and 1 OE (not DE issues generally).
1. Jealous of husband for being genetically related to the DE child. Non-issue for me.
2. First child is mean to your DE child for not being a full sibling. Not a real issue - first is very caring. Could it happen that they'd fight and the first would low? Yes, but it would be an anomaly and we'd deal with it appropriately.
3. DE child feels bad for being DE. We won't be giving them a reason to. We're not sharing our personal info with the world, but will be open early on and have been open with close family, who is also supportive. Teens in particular are known for finding things to feel crappy about, so it is very possible that this comes up. However, if it wasn't this in particular, it would be something else, to the extent the child is prone to depression, low self-esteem, etc. (which, of course we'd do our best to avoid and would deal with appropriately if it came up). I don't see that DE alone, would cause this, if we don't treat it like something to be ashamed of.
4. Other family members have issues/jealousy with the DE child looking into possible 1/2 siblings and or wanting info about the donor (if it happens, and it probably will - esp. 1/2 siblings). I feel pretty confident that neither I nor DH will take issue with this and I plan to be supportive. Can't tell what first child would think at this point, but since we plan to be supportive, I'd expect that will shape what the first child thinks, too.

I recommend talking to a counselor specializing in DE. We talked to Ellen Glazer. DE was great for us, but there are a lot of things to think about in the process.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2019 14:23     Subject: Donor child after biological child

Probably lots of older moms, but they don’t talk about it.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2019 14:18     Subject: Donor child after biological child

[flash]

Has anyone used a donor egg after having a biological child? I’m wondering if we’re the only ones considering this. I’ve mostly read about using a donor for your first child.