The new CRV hybrid 2019 is supposed to get 48 mpg. And tbe redesigned Rav4 hybrid is supposed to get around 44mpg.

I never understood the point of the previous gen of Rav4 hybrids (like the PP's)...which getv34 mpg...my gas-only/non-hybrid crv gets 30 mpg. Why buy a rav4 hybrid that only gets 34mpg and have to maintain 2 different engines? I guess Toyota realized their conundrum and improved their engine design for 2019.

We went from Pruis to RAV4 hyvrid. It's basically a larger prius but I never have issues with narrow streets or parking. I get 36 mph average (mix of city and highway)

The new Leaf, with a battery that competes with the Volt, looks great. We test-drove one and really liked it. DH is 6'1" and found the back seat comfortable. However, we decided we do need an SUV and are keeping an eye on some of the newer options due out in the next year or two.

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm a Volt owner and keep my eye out on new EVs.

Look at the new Nissan Leaf and the new Hyundai EVs. Car makers are slowly making EVs in the larger sedan sizes (as compared to the first generation which were tiny).

One thing to consider is the lifetime of the battery and the replacement costs. Most maintenance is minimal on the EVs, but the battery issue looms large.

Current Prius driver here - I have needed a new car for like 2 years. Mine is a 2004 with 180k miles on it - it's running terribly but I have a short commute so I've been dealing with it to avoid the hassle of buying a new car.

We are seriously considering the Hyundai Ioniq though the Kona is supposed to be fantastic so we may wait a couple months for that.

FYI Hyundai has a lifetime warranty on the battery.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm a Volt owner and keep my eye out on new EVs.

Look at the new Nissan Leaf and the new Hyundai EVs. Car makers are slowly making EVs in the larger sedan sizes (as compared to the first generation which were tiny).

One thing to consider is the lifetime of the battery and the replacement costs. Most maintenance is minimal on the EVs, but the battery issue looms large.

Thanks! OP here--Do you like your Volt? What are the plusses and minuses?

We love our Volt - it's our second one. We decided to lease so as to try out a new EV every few years. We got a Level 2 charger installed in our garage for quick charging. That said, our kids are getting bigger and our next EV will need more leg room in the back. Hence the looking at the Leaf and the Hyundais - they both look bigger. We also looked at the Honda Clarity, which is essentially an EV Civic. Uncertain if the Bolt will have enough rear leg room.

(Our primary kid hauler is a minivan.)

Do you mind sharing how much it cost to install the charger?
Also, DH and DS are both very tall, so height is an issue for our next car. The new Leaf looks nice.
PP who suggested the Lexus hybrids, thanks--they look luxurious. Who knew Lexus had so many hybrid lines?

Our plan is the Lexus ES hybrid after our Prius goes, but we only have 130k miles so it should be a while.

i replaced my 2010 prius with a 2013 ford Cmax hybrid. love it much more than prius. but 2018 is the last year for the cmax. bummer

I have 6 friends who have bought Ford Fusion hybrids (only gas-electric, no plug-ins) over the last 5 years. All have said they love the car and that it is a great car. All say that it has much more power than the Prii they test-drove. It won car of the year for 2010 and the entire line won green car of the year for 2013, so it's a good car. So far (oldest is 5 years old) they have been minimal maintenance and repairs, unlike the anecdotal history of Ford.

That said, although they are still selling 2019's, over the next 4 years, Ford is planning to discontinue most sedan lines including the Fusion, to focus on the SUV and truck market which is the bulk of their production. This was announced in April 2018.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm a Volt owner and keep my eye out on new EVs.

Look at the new Nissan Leaf and the new Hyundai EVs. Car makers are slowly making EVs in the larger sedan sizes (as compared to the first generation which were tiny).

One thing to consider is the lifetime of the battery and the replacement costs. Most maintenance is minimal on the EVs, but the battery issue looms large.

Thanks! OP here--Do you like your Volt? What are the plusses and minuses?

We love our Volt - it's our second one. We decided to lease so as to try out a new EV every few years. We got a Level 2 charger installed in our garage for quick charging. That said, our kids are getting bigger and our next EV will need more leg room in the back. Hence the looking at the Leaf and the Hyundais - they both look bigger. We also looked at the Honda Clarity, which is essentially an EV Civic. Uncertain if the Bolt will have enough rear leg room.

(Our primary kid hauler is a minivan.)

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm a Volt owner and keep my eye out on new EVs.

Look at the new Nissan Leaf and the new Hyundai EVs. Car makers are slowly making EVs in the larger sedan sizes (as compared to the first generation which were tiny).

One thing to consider is the lifetime of the battery and the replacement costs. Most maintenance is minimal on the EVs, but the battery issue looms large.

Thanks! OP here--Do you like your Volt? What are the plusses and minuses?

What about the prius V?

OP, I'm a Volt owner and keep my eye out on new EVs.

Look at the new Nissan Leaf and the new Hyundai EVs. Car makers are slowly making EVs in the larger sedan sizes (as compared to the first generation which were tiny).

One thing to consider is the lifetime of the battery and the replacement costs. Most maintenance is minimal on the EVs, but the battery issue looms large.

If you plan to keep it outside warranty, go with a Toyota product. Larger than a Prius but not an SUV is an interesting size range but the following should fit:

Lexus ES Hybrid
Lexus UX Hybrid
Toyota Camry Hybrid
Toyota Avalon Hybrid
Toyota RAV4 Hybrid

Looking to replace our 8 year old Prius with something that is a bit larger but still has great mileage. Considering only hybrid or electric cars. Would like to spend no more than $50K. Not interested in an SUV or minivan, as we already have one of those. Also not interested in Teslas. Car would be used primarily for commuting to downtown DC and driving our family of 4--two members of our family are over 6' tall.

Recommendations?