Celine doesn’t ever talk. Like ever. That’s what it takes.

Belting really hurts the voice over time.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8492205/justin-timberlake-overcomes-health-issues-returns-to-tour

How do you GET bruised vocal cords?

I notice that towards the end of the night my voice gets tired - it gets a little deeper, and kind of ... gravely and sounds like I'm getting laryngitis, it cracks. But then I stop talking and by the morning I'm perfectly fine. I never thought I was doing any damage...

Do you really, actually, seriously not get that maybe--just maybe!--you as a regular person with a regular job don't use your voice as frequently or in the same way as someone who sings, travels and performs for a living?

Anonymous wrote:AG won’t sound great in 10 years. She has so much noise in her sound. Lots of friction there.
Mariah’s voice is trashed
Adele will continue to have issues. Go hear her live while you can. It won’t sound like that in 10-15 years.

Julia Andrews was too old to be having that surgery. Her voice was aging and and never going to be what it was. The voice ages. you don’t hear 60 year old coloraturas, or lyrics hardly.

I agree. AG has only 6-10 years left but she has used her voice to become a multi millionaire. She will probably do another couple albums / tours and then be mostly done - the odd singing appearance etc.

Adele has closed her touring company so I think she is done with worldwide tours - again will probably release another album and do some performances but she is winding down too.

AG won’t sound great in 10 years. She has so much noise in her sound. Lots of friction there.
Mariah’s voice is trashed
Adele will continue to have issues. Go hear her live while you can. It won’t sound like that in 10-15 years.

Julia Andrews was too old to be having that surgery. Her voice was aging and and never going to be what it was. The voice ages. you don’t hear 60 year old coloraturas, or lyrics hardly.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't sing so I had never really thought much about singing and then I saw a documentary on the technical aspect of singing and was pretty blown away by how complex it is.

It was quite interesting how physiological singing was and how the different parts of the body are used to create the sounds and that if they aren't properly cared for, warmed up, and managed they get injured and damaged just like knees or backs. Professional and regular singing is very hard on the body and few people are able to manage long careers without injury or damage that affects their sound quality.

The other interesting thing was that while talent plays a role - much of singing quality can be learned. Being musically inclined as a foundation is critical (ability to hear tone etc) but that years of practice and training are why most singers can hit the notes they can and sing the way they do. Obviously more natural talent is going to make the final outcome even better. Ariana Grande was one example of someone whose voice is the result of decades of training and practice. Some of the girls / guys in kpop groups aren't even singers. They are recruited from being models or actors or other backgrounds and then trained intensely to be singers.

And autotune.

No, the opposite. You may not like her, but AG has bonafide chops.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you bruise your vocal cords by ... singing?

How does one take care of their vocal cords? Warming up with scales? Drinking throat coat? Other things?

One thing you might not know is that Christine from Phantom is one of the only if not only Broadway parts that has a prerecorded track.

The actresses cast as Christine all can and must be able to hit that super high note at the end of the Phantom song, but for shows, that note is pre recorded for all of the Christine including understudies, and played by the soundboard. It is the actual actress' voice, just not live. The reason is that the specific note is so high, that to hit it 7 times a week would do serious damage to the vocal cords very quickly. So to allow the actresses playing Christine to play that part for more than a few weeks, that prerecorded note is blended into her singing each show by the sound techs.

So when you have an artist like Mariah Carey hitting that super high note, know that she is damaging her vocal cords.

That is why those prodigy kids mimicking that kind of singing should not be allowed to do that if they want to be an actual singer. It is the vocal equivalent of those young competition dancers who overstretch to achieve extensions beyond the hips natural rotation. That destroys and actual reforms the hip socket in a way that causes irreparable harm that will not be obvious until years down the road...same thing just with the voice.

My sister is a professional singer, and she is so bothered by people who praise kids singing like that. She says that they are destroying their voices.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you bruise your vocal cords by ... singing?

How does one take care of their vocal cords? Warming up with scales? Drinking throat coat? Other things?

One thing you might not know is that Christine from Phantom is one of the only if not only Broadway parts that has a prerecorded track.

The actresses cast as Christine all can and must be able to hit that super high note at the end of the Phantom song, but for shows, that note is pre recorded for all of the Christine including understudies, and played by the soundboard. It is the actual actress' voice, just not live. The reason is that the specific note is so high, that to hit it 7 times a week would do serious damage to the vocal cords very quickly. So to allow the actresses playing Christine to play that part for more than a few weeks, that prerecorded note is blended into her singing each show by the sound techs.

So when you have an artist like Mariah Carey hitting that super high note, know that she is damaging her vocal cords.

That is why those prodigy kids mimicking that kind of singing should not be allowed to do that if they want to be an actual singer. It is the vocal equivalent of those young competition dancers who overstretch to achieve extensions beyond the hips natural rotation. That destroys and actual reforms the hip socket in a way that causes irreparable harm that will not be obvious until years down the road...same thing just with the voice.

I don't think Mariah sings those super high notes anymore. I remember at her NYE disaster, the track that played had the high notes pre-recorded.

Anonymous wrote:I don't sing so I had never really thought much about singing and then I saw a documentary on the technical aspect of singing and was pretty blown away by how complex it is.

It was quite interesting how physiological singing was and how the different parts of the body are used to create the sounds and that if they aren't properly cared for, warmed up, and managed they get injured and damaged just like knees or backs. Professional and regular singing is very hard on the body and few people are able to manage long careers without injury or damage that affects their sound quality.

The other interesting thing was that while talent plays a role - much of singing quality can be learned. Being musically inclined as a foundation is critical (ability to hear tone etc) but that years of practice and training are why most singers can hit the notes they can and sing the way they do. Obviously more natural talent is going to make the final outcome even better. Ariana Grande was one example of someone whose voice is the result of decades of training and practice. Some of the girls / guys in kpop groups aren't even singers. They are recruited from being models or actors or other backgrounds and then trained intensely to be singers.

And autotune.

Anonymous wrote:So you bruise your vocal cords by ... singing?

How does one take care of their vocal cords? Warming up with scales? Drinking throat coat? Other things?

One thing you might not know is that Christine from Phantom is one of the only if not only Broadway parts that has a prerecorded track.

The actresses cast as Christine all can and must be able to hit that super high note at the end of the Phantom song, but for shows, that note is pre recorded for all of the Christine including understudies, and played by the soundboard. It is the actual actress' voice, just not live. The reason is that the specific note is so high, that to hit it 7 times a week would do serious damage to the vocal cords very quickly. So to allow the actresses playing Christine to play that part for more than a few weeks, that prerecorded note is blended into her singing each show by the sound techs.

So when you have an artist like Mariah Carey hitting that super high note, know that she is damaging her vocal cords.

That is why those prodigy kids mimicking that kind of singing should not be allowed to do that if they want to be an actual singer. It is the vocal equivalent of those young competition dancers who overstretch to achieve extensions beyond the hips natural rotation. That destroys and actual reforms the hip socket in a way that causes irreparable harm that will not be obvious until years down the road...same thing just with the voice.

So you bruise your vocal cords by ... singing?

How does one take care of their vocal cords? Warming up with scales? Drinking throat coat? Other things?

John Mayer, Adele, Keith Urban, Rod Stewart, and other singers have had successful vocal cord surgery. Julie Andrews is said to have suffered permanent damage from the surgery.

I sing, and I don’t take care of my chords.

That’s why I’ll never be professional I guess. Ha ha or that I sound pretty basic

But I wish I were better.

Taking care of your vocal chords is a lifestyle, and you’d be surprised how much you have to change ordinary activities.

I don't sing so I had never really thought much about singing and then I saw a documentary on the technical aspect of singing and was pretty blown away by how complex it is.

It was quite interesting how physiological singing was and how the different parts of the body are used to create the sounds and that if they aren't properly cared for, warmed up, and managed they get injured and damaged just like knees or backs. Professional and regular singing is very hard on the body and few people are able to manage long careers without injury or damage that affects their sound quality.

The other interesting thing was that while talent plays a role - much of singing quality can be learned. Being musically inclined as a foundation is critical (ability to hear tone etc) but that years of practice and training are why most singers can hit the notes they can and sing the way they do. Obviously more natural talent is going to make the final outcome even better. Ariana Grande was one example of someone whose voice is the result of decades of training and practice. Some of the girls / guys in kpop groups aren't even singers. They are recruited from being models or actors or other backgrounds and then trained intensely to be singers.

Aw. Singers need to take care of their vocal cords. I wish Julie Andrews had a better outcome with her vocal cord surgery. That one always makes me sad. Her voice was a treasure and now she cannot sing more than an octave I believe. At least Justin's music is all autotuned vocals. Even if his voice quality ends up damaged, he will still be able to perform as a singer since what we hear is not his true singing voice. The computers can take care of him in a way they cannot for true legit voices like Julie Andrews.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8492205/justin-timberlake-overcomes-health-issues-returns-to-tour

How do you GET bruised vocal cords?

I notice that towards the end of the night my voice gets tired - it gets a little deeper, and kind of ... gravely and sounds like I'm getting laryngitis, it cracks. But then I stop talking and by the morning I'm perfectly fine. I never thought I was doing any damage...